Visible Romex crossing Garage Rafters ... Question

Not if they all play instruments. Then they’re called a BAND.

Facts

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Actually it does. 334.23 does state that installation of cables in accessible attics and roof spaces must comply with 320.23 which describes when cables are required to be protected in accessible attics or roof spaces and the means/methods to protect them. What is also interesting is section 320 deals with armored cable type AC which is already somewhat better protected than type NM.

So section 334/320 does explain the needed answer and since only the OP knows the attic conditions then only the OP can determine what would be needed.

This is what a Band of Monkees looks like :monkey: :monkey_face:

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well You sure don’t want that in Your garage or basement…

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I disagree. That section says where protection is needed, none of which apply to the original photo. It does not define subject to physical damage as i stated.

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If you were going to call it out anyway, why did you pose this as a question?

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ICC Residential Electrical Training …
I have never had an EO claim as it relates to Residential electrical …
17 years …

Subject to physical damaged …Hanging up a rake etc …

I will take a look at my NEC Book … My ICC teacher said all wires need to be protected … Somebody with a pole, a rake etc could contact the romex wires.

I will look that up in the NEC Code book … ref the basement

Why don’t you just recommend they hang a sheet of drywall on that ceiling and be done with this whole mess, seems like that would be a lot cheaper than an electrician putting all of that in conduit. Then nobody (nobody in their right mind) will hang some imaginary rake from the wires. Jeez talk about going down a rabbit hole.

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I did mention on the report
About drywall over that area as a possible solution …

First of all the wires are not a defect. As such they do not affect the value of the property or the sale. Secondly, recommending solutions for anything, much less a contrived “defect,” will get you into serious hot water. While I don’t rely on agents to make referrals it helps and I’m sure they talk negative referrals more often than positive. If your reports are harder for them to work with (because they have to explain/understand /negotiate all your remedies) that gets around pretty quick. Don’t create negative referrals!

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Your ICC teacher is wrong, but no surprise. Perfect is hard. And this goes to similar experiences that most, if not all of us have had. Someone with experience, knowledge, and gravitas tells us something wrong but because of who they are, we accept it as true. So, whenever someone tells me something that I’ve not heard or that’s different from my understanding, I verify.
Trust but verify
I have been wrong too and man! does it grate on me when I’m wrong. And chances are I’ll be wrong again. My wife says that I was wrong three times today!

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You are an amazing husband if you were only wrong 3 times. I aspire to one day get to that level. :rofl:

Merry Christmas, Lon.

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:dart::dart::dart:
I will look into it

NEC 320.23 pertains to Armored Cable (Type AC), not to Non-metallic Sheathed Cable (NM).

Thank you !!!

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Holy crap George read my posts and read the NEC. In case you can’t find the NEC here is the wording from 334.23 for NM.

334.23 In Accessible Attics. The installation of cable in accessible attics or roof spaces shall also comply with 320.23.

Now go back up and read my post where I said interesting that they specify NM is to be run like AC and AC is more protected than NM to begin with.

Are you really a Master Electrician as your tagline states?? FM!

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You’re correct. The nec could have repeated the requirements for NM cable directly in Article 334 but they chose to simply reference the requirements for AC cable in Article 320.

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