Ray, Joe says to make sure you have your working papers for Immigration when you arrive. 
Joe,
I know you and I know of some of your martial arts background.
If it came to an “Old Fashioned Fist Fight” my money is on you!
Is “NACHI” going to provide “Medical or Funereal” expenses? :shock: 
{Or expenses for “New Toofies”?\:D/ :mwa-hah: \:D/ }
I’d put up money to see that show. Ray are you looking for a manager?
Doug
Ray, in all seriousness, let me host a debate. It will be fun. Joe is up for it if you are. All expenses paid plus $1,000.00.
I will come and debate Ray, if Joe says no.
Can I be the moderator?
I willl bring my own props. Each speaker will be given three minutes to speak on a question. When their time is up, I will hit Roy Cooke in the head with a hammer.
That is Funny!
Sorry Roy!
But it was funny.
I’d also like to debate anyone on the virtues of licensing if there are any takers. I of course will argue against.
It will be fun and whoever is brave and will agree will have all expenses covered, $1K, and approval authority in editing (we won’t make you look bad in the editing process).
I dare you Ray!
$1000 plus expenses, not a bad day’s pay…
I don’t have a passion for licensing one way or another, but I don’t think
the exaggerated claims against it apply in all situations. Some laws are good
and some just create more problems. I have seen some benefits and
think that side of it has it’s place.
If you want we can debate next week. I am on my way. Thanks for the offer.
See you on Monday.
It will be fun… and I never get upset or offended.
You can pay with cash, check or CC.
I promise not to make you look bad… 
Yes, No, Yes, No, Yes, No.
Please send my check to the address on file…:mrgreen:
Hello? Nick, let’s do it.
Here are the rules for the “debate”
- No Time limit
- No Gloves {bare Hands}
- No Cops
- No Referee
- No “Tap outs” allowed!
- Knees and elbows are allowed!
- Choke holds are allowed!
- Kicks to the face, throat and groin are allowed! \:D/
Last man standing wins!
I have met Joe on three different occasions… I know what he can do…My money is on Joe! 
Last week was my sixty fifth {65th} trip to our State Capitol {In the last 25-months} trying to get the NACHI SOP, NACHI COE, and the NACHI exam incorporated into a proposed New Hampshire State Law.
65 trips X 53.7 miles = 3,490.5 miles of travel
65 trips x 1-hour & 10-min. = 71-hours & 50 minutes of travel time
65 trips X $2.00 for tolls = $130.00
65 trips X $6.00 for parking = $390.00
and you want to pay Ray Wand $1,K plus fly him to Denver and put him up for a few days so that he can tell how bad NACHI is?
Jesus, Mary & Joseph,
Feel free to send me the $1,K and I will send you a letter telling you all about it!
We just landed a worldwide exclusive interview!!! *[size=]Joe tells all and names names! *
And so did Heidi ,whats her name!!![/size]:mrgreen: :mrgreen:
John, you are wonderful, but you are not a debater on the licensing issue.
Reading through your posts, your views are limited to your own experiences in your own state relating to your own experiences with TREC. So often in message board debates, you fall back on your defense that “it’s not like that in Texas” or words to that affect.
A debate between you and Mr. Cayhill on the value of the present legislation in Texas would be interesting…until he destroyed you in the second round.
If Nick is going to debate licensing on a national broadcast, IMO, it should be with a Jerry Peck, Jeff Hooper, or other figure who has engaged heavily in the debate and who believe so staunchly in it that they would manipulate events like they did in Florida to overcome a successful resistance of 15 years.
I called some of the ASHI guys who have, in the past, put through minimum standard licensing to see if they would debate me, but now that licensing has dumped so many new competitors into their markets, they now agree with me, unfortunately too late for them.
I seem to have no problem with dispelling your comment when they pop up.
So don’t draw any conclusion before we have the debate.
I would rather see an honest discussion, instead of manipulation.
If the debate against licensing does not bear witness with my experience
then who should I believe… your exaggerations are my own eyes.?
Since I am supposedly so weak on this issue, then no one should be afraid of
what I have to say. I don’t posture to be a legendary expert like you, but that
is probably my biggest advantage. :mrgreen:
Common sense.
That is the KEY.
If the requirements are too weak, then it’s all bad.
If they are strong and real, then that serves some good…IMHO.