What the Heck?

Originally Posted By: tallen
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Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Ok…at the risk of showing my ignorance…I’ll bite,


The first photo shows thinwall conduit with a compression fitting.
Aside from a little rust (water getting in somewhere?) it looks OK to me.

Can't see anything wrong with the 2nd photo other than the cheap
knock-off of a Little Giant ladder. ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)

The third (after I'd scrolled right for a couple of minutes) has unmarked
neutrals (no white paint/tape) and an oversize conductor to the single 30
amp breaker (nothing wrong with that) but I can't see anything else wrong.
This all assumes the conduit is the EGC and is continuous of course.

I'm probably missing something but I can't figure out what it is.

Todd...
you have to hit return between images.
Or better yet, when they're this big, leave them as external links.


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Originally Posted By: tallen
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sorry about the size. I resized them to min.


Originally Posted By: tallen
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All of the red wires you see are 14 AWG and are connected to 40 amp breakers


Originally Posted By: tallen
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The one on the right is connected toi a 20 amp receptical. No ground.





This is a top of the line sub panel>>>>> Jeff Pope would be proud. ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)


Originally Posted By: tallen
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It is missing straps. It is not wired properly etc.


Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Yep…missed the conduit strapping.


Those reds to the breakers sure look bigger than 14’s.


Couldn’t see the receptacle… icon_wink.gif



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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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Todd this installation sure needs some attention.


The wires do look bigger than 14s but regardless the fact that they are
on a 40 amp breaker may be fine.

Do they feed HVAC equipment?


Todd if you cut and past this into your first post the photos will be stacked insted of side by side. Of course you will have to remove the original BBCode.

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Originally Posted By: Vince Santos
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In the middle photo.


I don’t think a 90? angle is allowed on the conduit.



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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Vince Santos wrote:
In the middle photo.
I don't think a 90? angle is allowed on the conduit.


Nothing wrong with 90 degree bends as long as they're done
with the proper tools at the proper radius based on the size of the conduit.

Unless you're referring to this one.

![](upload://ztVGT6maUadQxnx5G60yXYrHO2t.jpeg)

That's a bit tight for those large conductors.

Nice catch Todd ![icon_cool.gif](upload://oPnLkqdJc33Dyf2uA3TQwRkfhwd.gif)

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Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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That 90 is a pull point. It has a cover that comes off. Perfectly legal.


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I don’t see a cover on that one Greg.



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Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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Look at the inside and outside at the 45 points. Those are 8-32 screws and the whole side comes off. The “standing” part is where the conduit hubs are.


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Originally Posted By: jpope
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Got it.


I don't think I've seen one of those yet either.


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Originally Posted By: tallen
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The 40 amp breakers go to welders rated at 30 amp 20% duty rating.


The conduit that has come apart is the ground back to the main. Not that it matters, here is the same conduit in the main panel.

panel.![](upload://weMyWGgLrIpozWnFK8k56HvF0Rb.jpeg)


Originally Posted By: rmoore
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Ahhh…


what I thought was rust in the first photo is the red wires peeking through!
![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif) Gotta get my eyes checked.
Coupled with the photo of the main panel I'm not surprised there was a grounding problem.


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