2-Day Commercial Inspection Training Special Event

Upcoming event information:
2 Day Commercial Inspection Training Dayton, Ohio
Date: 07 Nov 2014 UTC-07:00

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The National Association of Commercial Building Inspectors & Thermographers™** (NACBI) presents a 2 day intensive training course for Commercial Building Inspections!

This is a fast paced course designed to grow your current inspection business and revenue potential to the next level!
A variety of primary education topics will be provided including technical topics, business issues, the scope of work, fee quoting, proposal and report writing, industry accepted standards, proper use and contracting of specialty consultants, and of course system and component inspection topics with an on-site inspection! The course topics are designed to complement your current experience and acquired knowledge. Course content will provide the resources and knowledge necessary for performing small, medium and large commercial inspections (Property Condition Assessments), while removing the fears and intimidation which are often associated with commercial inspections.

Instructors will include:
Dale Duffy - Internationally renowned and successful commercial building inspector and thermogrpaher, and President of NACBI
Bill Warner - Successful commercial building inspector and thermographer, inspection instructor, and Education Director of NACBI

Adding commercial inspection services to your existing inspection business is a natural and lucrative progression of your career! Commercial inspectors generate five to ten times (and more) the average revenue that residential inspectors earn in a comparable amount of time per job!
At the end of this course, you will:

  • Learn the skills, tips, and marketing techniques you need to get your commercial inspection business up and running
  • Be able to successfully organize a team of specialty consults when necessary
  • Understand the primary technical aspects of commercial property condition assessments and inspections
  • Create job winning proposals and superior reports guaranteed to earn clients for life
  • And finally remove the shroud of uncertainty and intimidation commonly associated with commercial inspections!

No prerequisites are necessary; however, this will be a fast paced course specific to commercial inspections. We do recommend solid knowledge and background in residential inspections or general construction, and an eagerness to **earn larger incomes per inspection!**We invite you to join us this coming November 7-9 in Dayton, Ohio to expand your knowledge, services, AND profits.
Arrival, Meet & Greet planned for Fri. evening Nov. 7
Classroom Training all day Sat. Nov. 8
On-site commercial property inspection Sun. Nov. 9Reserve your spot! Register Today!

Contact us with any questions or Click the Register button to begin the registration process!

More information and online registration: 2 Day Commercial Inspection Training

Best regards,
NACBI

Hi John,

Is there any plans for doing one of these in the South.

Hi Greg,

No…In Dayton we have at our disposal several commercial buildings. Part of this intensive two day training will be an actual onsite inspection.

What motel would you suggest staying at? Is the class at a motel?

The classroom portion of the event will be held at a hotel near the Dayton airport. Room blocks have been reserved for attendees at $89/night. The hotel provides free 24 hour shuttle service to and from the airport. Booking information for the hotel and other details will be sent with the event registration confirmation email for those who register.

Bill,

What inspection standard do you cover?

http://nacbi.org/astm-standards

John, Bill, Dale,

I’d like to hear why COMSOP is not taught at your seminar. Nick claims it is whe most widely used standard for commersial buildings (I may have mis-spoken) and also claims that ASTM is NOT a commercial building standard.

Correct. For many reasons: InterNACHI being the largest inspection trade association. It being the Standard used in the most governmentally-approved commercial course in our industry. It being a built-in template in the inspection software our industry uses. The fact that it includes all the necessary contracts, checklists, ancillary services, and forms. Engineers who do commercial inspections liking it so much. The hard-copy version being free. It being updated each year. Etc., etc.

Also, google “Standards of Practice for Inspecting Commercial Properties” www.nachi.org/comsop.htm is everywhere.

And of course there is one more reason www.nachi.org/comsop.htm is so popular. The only other standard can’t be viewed. You can’t teach to it, because you aren’t allowed to hand it out. You can’t even let your potential customer review it. Even the link Jeffrey posted to it, doesn’t show it. ASTM threatens to sue you anyone who releases it. LOL With that for competition, it isn’t hard to understand why www.nachi.org/comsop became so dominant.

I’d also point out the flaws in ASTM’s half century old document… but I can’t. ASTM forbids me to post it. LMAO.

Thank you.

Dominant?

The top 10 (largest) professional engineering firms in the US have not heard of it.

The top 10 engineering firms are big in the commercial inspection business??? Really? I’m quite sure you are incorrect again. Prove it. Post all 10 of their websites.

If you are right, I’ll have them all using www.nachi.org/comsop.htm within 60 days. It’s a no-brainer. However I think I know all the major players in the commercial inspection business, so I’m really curious to see your 10 website links. Post away. I’d love 10 more www.nachi.org/comsop users/customers.

But my marketing efforts are trivial compared to the one company that has made www.nachi.org/comsop.htm so dominant. That company is Google. But don’t take my word for it… Google something generic like "Standards of Practice for Inspecting Commercial Properties" or whatever. The International Standards of Practice for Inspecting Commercial Properties enjoys absolute, utter dominance.

Joe, Thanks for the opportunity to reply.

Two common and preferred guidelines exist for NACBI members in conducting a commercial property condition assessment: ASTM standard guide for property condition assessments, and Standard & Poor’s property condition assessment criteria.

The American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) has approved guidelines for conducting a PCA which are largely accepted by most lending institutions, commercial real estate professionals, commercial property inspectors and savvy clients. The ASTM standard guide for property condition assessments - baseline property condition assessment process (E2018 – XX) recognizes that there are numerous levels of physical due diligence which can be performed and details the recommended procedures, methodology, and a scope of work for conducting a “baseline” PCA. I have outlined the different 3 levels further along in this posting.

The primary objectives in the development of these guidelines were to:
· Define good commercial and customary practice for the PCA
· Facilitate consistent content in producing property condition reports
· Develop practical and reasonable recommendations and expectations for site inspections, reviews, and research in conducting a baseline PCA
· Formulate reasonable expectations for property condition reports
· Assist in developing an industry baseline standard of care for appropriate observations and research
· Propose protocols for consultants to communicate observations, opinions, and recommendations in a manner meaningful to the user or client Identify and communicate physical deficiencies to a user or client

The ASTM guide outlines procedures for conducting a walk-through survey, and recommends various systems, components, and equipment that should be observed and reported in the property condition report. The end result is a property condition report which incorporates the information obtained during the inspection, document reviews, and interviews. The consultant (inspector) works together with the client to determine and define the scope of inspection services needed. These guidelines can be exceeded, but they can also be reduced under mutual agreement between client and inspector. ASTM acknowledges that there are varying levels of property condition assessments that are both more and less comprehensive than the ASTM guide which may be appropriate to meet the objectives of the client. Inspectors wishing to provide services in accordance to ASTM E2018-xx guidelines should purchase, read, and understand the ASTM guidelines for conducting a “baseline” commercial property condition assessment/inspection. Fully understanding these widely accepted guidelines will assist to formulate a written scope of work especially when encountering the occasional client who themselves are new to commercial real estate transactions.

The scope and level of effort in a building assessment can vary greatly depending on multiple factors. In order to meet the requirements of the financial industry and client needs, three general levels of due diligence have been commonly accepted for PCA use. These levels progress from a basic review of the property to a full comprehensive study. The studies may include opinions of costs to remedy deficiencies and the development of replacement reserve schedules. Most PCA’s are a non-intrusive visual survey. However, inspectors should make a reasonable attempt at discovery while conducting a PCA.

Level one evaluation:

This is the lowest level of due diligence which includes a walk-through survey of the property and basic information related to the property researched. A level one evaluation is used to form opinions on the likelihood, types, and locations of issues affecting the condition of a property. Common observations range from presence of potentially hazardous materials on site to visible cracks in a structural component. The information gathered during a level one evaluation can be used by clients to make informed decisions regarding acquisition, financing, and property management. This is normally non-intrusive and non-destructive, but may be enhanced by a level two investigation to meet specific needs of the client. These evaluations or combination of level one and two are notably the most common requested.

Level two evaluation:

The next level of due diligence is more comprehensive and demands a higher level of investigation. Systems and components are examined more carefully and more thoroughly. Material defects are identified and opinions of cost to cure are sometimes provided. Level II evaluations may include development of reserve schedule studies. Level II evaluations may also include specialist consultants such as electrical contractors, HVAC technicians, engineers, etc. who will inspect systems and components in more detail and provide cost to cure remedies. Often times an initial evaluation or inspection will bring to light a number of serious defects. An example would be significant structural cracks in a load bearing or exterior wall. This would strongly make the case for the need of a more extensive evaluation by qualified expert. Many PCA’s incorporate some variance or combination of level one and two evaluations defined by scope and client needs.

Level three evaluation:

This is the most comprehensive, detailed, and time intensive evaluation of a property. Systems and components are examined in great detail by specialists trained in specific areas. This level of evaluation often involves testing, sampling, dismantling, and in depth research. Cost to cure estimates as well as reserve schedule studies are provided. This is the least common level of evaluation, and by nature, also the most costly to the client.

Admittedly I have only given the I-NACHI ComSop a cursory review. I believe the i-NACHI ComSop to be beneficial to those who are conducting extremely small or light commercial building inspections, (i.e. Residential properties converted to small offices or business’s). But….and this is a huge but… it fails miserably and shows glaring flaws for the needs in anything other than extremely small or light commercial building inspections.

John, you are correct. www.nachi.org/comsop.htm is specifically geared to small commercial (restaurants, strip malls, pizza shops, small apartment buildings) and light industrial (warehouses, workshops)projects… ones that home inspectors are willing to tackle.

Thank you John. My evaluation and assessment is similar. COMSOP has its place, but is generally NOT the defacto standard for a PCA. Virtually all commercial assessments for commercial lending institutions, where one is required, is the ASTM model.

COMSOP is applicable for small commercial, where conventional residential inspection standards bay also suffice. Nick made the comment that engineering firms prefer COMSOP. This, I know, to be an untrue statement.

Nick challenges people to substantiate their statements by referring to websites. Nonsensical. In fact, his are the comments made without substantiation. As I have stated, engineers that are true engineers and who perform commercial inspections (real commercial inspections) utilize ASTM. As far as not being able to teach it… it’s hogwash.

Nick,

Sorry, I disagree. No disrespect intended.

Restaurants… Absolutely not.
Strip Malls… Absolutely not.
Pizza Shops…Depends on the Scope and size.
Small Apartment Buildings…Possibly yes for 2-3 units, no more than 2 story.
Light Industrial (warehouses,workshops)…I could see empty very small warehouses. Workshops (if you mean small shoe repair business)…then yes. If you mean large industrial workshops such as paper plants, etc… Absolutely not.

I’m not familiar with any engineer who performs Commercial Building Inspections utilizing anything but the ASTM (as primary) and Standard & Poor (secondary) standards.

I’ve been doing commercial inspections for over 7 years now and never once had a client request that the inspection be performed in accordance COMSOP Standards. Always, 100% ASTM utilizing the HomeGauge ASTM template.

I’ve been doing commercial inspections for 22 years and run ComInspect. I’ve had only a handful of buyers who even knew there was a commercial SOP. And the few that did found the SOP using google (and we all know which SOP you find when you do a google search).

ASTM’s half-century old SOP is idiotic (I’d point out why, but I can’t post it, no one can) and the most idiotic thing about it is that ASTM doesn’t allow you to view it, post it, display it on your website, offer it for download, include it in your report, or send it to your clients (without paying a huge usage fee each time).

Linas, what is your annual budget for usage fees paid to ASTM? You must spend tens of thousands of dollars.

Also, if your commercial inspection agreement references an SOP that your client can’t view, your agreement is worthless.

John has pretty much answered and reflects my views as well.
COMSOP is adequate for those structures that could be mistaken for a residential property if not for the fact that a small business may be run out of them… simply because COMSOP was derived directly from (and basically mimics) a residential standard. Nothing more.
ASTM encompasses ALL property types and scopes of work whereas COMSOP does not.