A certification that means something

[sfogarty (Sean Fogarty)]

@dedwards

Russell and Sean,
And what everyone is saying is, This is NICK’s club, not ours. We don’t own any stock in it. He created this airline and he gets to pilot it his way for his purposes. If some of that is a benefit to the members, great! If not, then they need to look elsewhere. This business is like baseball, there’s no crying. If someone comes into your business and tries to tell you how to run and what you should be doing with it I am sure you would tell them pretty fast where the door is. For what it provides, iNachi is par none. No one even comes in close. In fact Nick keeps those other guys up nights. But it is NOT a qualifying authority. Truthfully, I doubt there are any for the home inspection business. Personally, I don’t think you ever get truely “qualified” because as soon as you think you know everything there is to know, you get your butt handed to you. There are no experts, there is just too much to know. There are some who are years and miles ahead of the pack.
What I am saying, don’t look to iNachi to either make you or break you as a success in this business. Use the tools and resources available but if awards and credentials are what you are looking for…go someplace else to get some that mean something. But in the big scheme, the phone don’t ring because of how many diplomas you got or as you said, initials behind your name. It is a lean market and you have to be competitive to get your market share. Nachi is only the tool shed, you have to know how to use the tools. The message boards is another whole story. It is little more than a resource centers for quick answers to questions, a place to piss and moan, basically a coffee claque. I am not ready to go out and get my iNachi tattoo yet.

I guess your right Doug,
I thought maybe I could share some ideas, but as the saying goes. “I’m doing this chicken, you just hold the head”

GUess I will just sit back and enjoy the flight.

[sfogarty (Sean Fogarty)]

@bkelly2

INACHI is a lot like the land of OZ, when you first arrive here it is a Magical, Wonderous place. As you gather yourself and look around it has many new things to offer.

Once you are here a while and make it to the City of OZ and peak behind the curtain, most of the wonderment dissipates.

And when you talk to the mighty OZ he basically tells you, you have all the power my friend and what you imagined OZ to be is just an illusion.

Enjoy your time here, or don’t.

So, just click your heels together and enjoy the Logo’s

I havent peeked behind the curtin yet. Is it scary?

[bkelly2 (Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)]

@sfogarty

I havent peeked behind the curtin yet. Is it scary?

You are getting very close Sean.

Once you realize what Doug is telling you is true, you will have seen the Mighty OZ.

[dedwards (Doug Edwards)]

It is Nick in a Speedo, Wellington boots, a gold chain and sunglasses back there. It ain’t pretty.

[Brian_A.MacNeish]

@sfogarty

Dude, you obviously don’t get it. Did you read the 3rd post. The one about Kansas CIty? I was personaly told by COldwell Banker here, that since I was not ashi certified the agents would not use me. Many areas have no clue what NACHI is…

My goals are not to seek more credentials than others. Its about passing some kind of true legitimate, 1part, 2part, whatever, for my personal goals and satisfaction. Thats why real certifications have been created in other circles. Kind of like level 1,2 and 3 for thermal imaging.

It does not exist here, or ASHI or anywhere. There is nothing to challenge my knowledge and ability as an inspector. Somthing that should be evaluated by my piers.

Here’s a good one. Check them out.
http://www.americanfarriers.org/

They are not governed by anyone. A farrier is one of the last unlicensed carriers in the country.
They have a real certification.
A written test
A practical shoeing evaluated by your piers,
and a evaluation on your abilities in the forge.

Now I know this is not home inspecting, but their certification is recognized everywhere, and real certification is respected by all those who have accomplished it.

Got to get a better term than “certification”…there was an ad on a local TV channel earlier for women’s undergarments claiming their staff were “certified bra fitters”…the term has been abused, overused and blown out of the water!!! Every body is certifying something without having any idea what rigorous and defendable accreditation is all about…and that includes most HI orgs, here included.

[sfogarty (Sean Fogarty)]

@Brian_A.MacNeish

Got to get a better term than “certification”…there was an ad on a local TV channel earlier for women’s undergarments claiming their staff were “certified bra fitters”…the term has been abused, overused and blown out of the water!!! Every body is certifying something without having any idea what rigorous and defendable accreditation is all about…and that includes most HI orgs, here included.

Oh MY GOD!!!
Forget home inspections…
I am going to become a CBF tomorrow…My dream has come true

[Brian_A.MacNeish]

@bkelly2

INACHI is a lot like the land of OZ, when you first arrive here it is a Magical, Wonderous place. As you gather yourself and look around it has many new things to offer.

Once you are here a while and make it to the City of OZ and peak behind the curtain, most of the wonderment dissipates.

And when you talk to the mighty OZ he basically tells you, you have all the power my friend and what you imagined OZ to be is just an illusion.

Enjoy your time here, or don’t.

So, just click your heels together and enjoy the Logo’s

Ain’t it so true???

[jbraun (James E. Braun, CMI)]

@rhensel

No one cares about organizations you say? Thats not how marketing works my friend. Sorry to tell you. If a NACHI, FABI and ASHI guy were up for a job I would bet that 3 to 1 they would pick ASHI. Because they are better? Nope because they HEARD of them. People do not choose the unknown, they choose something they can relate to and FEEL familiar with.

The Branding they did years ago still lingers strong. Know why? NO ONE HAS TAKEN THEIR PLACE. When there is no other KNOWN choice then you stick with whats out there. If they only KNOW ASHI then they only refer ASHI.

I have argued with Nick about this before. He just does not get it. Nick’s goal is to make this organization into a school. He did it. Now what?
You can be the most educated inspector in the world but that does not make the phone ring. If you are not a good marketer, NACHI will not help your business. That is why I think A$HI is still around and will still be around. In my opinion, Nick is going about taking out A$HI backwards.
Maybe Nick does not think he can beat A$HI in their own marketing game?

[jburkeson1 (Joseph Burkeson, CMI)]

@jbraun

I have argued with Nick about this before. He just does not get it. Nick’s goal is to make this organization into a school. He did it. Now what?
You can be the most educated inspector in the world but that does not make the phone ring. If you are not a good marketer, NACHI will not help your business. That is why I think A$HI is still around and will still be around. In my opinion, Nick is going about taking out A$HI backwards.
Maybe Nick does not think he can beat A$HI in their own marketing game?

As far as I know ASHI gave up the “branding” thingy years ago, continuation would have led to bankruptcy and Nick is smarter than that.

[jbraun (James E. Braun, CMI)]

I think Nick is just too scared.:mrgreen:

[smay (Scott May, CMI CCHI)]

This whole thing is ridiculous. Logos don’t really get you anything except maybe personal satisfaction…now smoozing that will get you business! End of story.