Another fun wind mit question

If I am doing an inspeciton on an older home, that has shutters. The shutters are stamped sstd-12 and say FL approval or state approval, but do not verify what size missile impact its rated for…
do I pick A or B?? the form just says sstd 12, and if the panels don’t specify then how do you know.
The home is older, and doesn’t have any other paperwork to verify.

call me tomorrow after 10:30 i’ll be on the road and try to help you out.

While I would like to know the answer, I also wanted to see if this qould become a 6 page argument as well. :wink:

Sean, here are some examples I pulled up that match your situation. I think what Sean is trying to ask is if they meet 4-8 or 9lbs missile? Both are current and approved but do not meet PA/TAS 210, 202, and 203, they are also not MDCA complaint.

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http://www.floridabuilding.org/pr/pr_app_dtl.aspx?param=wGEVXQwtDqsxYIeb4opODY3qruZe4uWXjUKEotxC6kjSDbyDnZE3xg%3D%3D

Robert, your links don’t work for a specific product. Just post the approval number and which code cycle it’s under.

Another gray area is for rated windows installed above 30’…what if they are small missile with higher design pressure. What do you mark on the 1802?

I was having that issue also, but after clicking a few times it came up.

FL11964-R1

History

I don’t get it. I thought you had a storm panel that was still approved under SSTD-12. Those panels are tested under E1886-E1996.

To answer Sean’s question, If I see SSTD-12 stamped on the shutter, I select “A”. Since the approvals are no longer retrievable, I default to 9lb. That is was what I was told to do when doing reinspections for Citizens.

I posted two, but then didn’t put the link up for the other one that was SSTD-12. I wanted to give you both examples so you could see it.

FL722-R4

History

The approval for both is current, submitted under method D simulated compliance. SSTD-12 has three classification for large missile which only 1 is 9lbs, as does ASTM E1996 with only 2 being 9lbs…

I was just giving you both so you could see it…

There are three pages worth of shutters that are current and meet this classification (ASTM E1996 or SSTD-12, this is one page:

FL722-R4
History
AffirmationMetal Tech, Inc.
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels ORLANDO L. BLANCO, P.E.
(305) 510-8531 Approved FL3227-R10
History
RevisionWayne-Dalton, a division of Overhead Door Corporation
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Mark R. Barrow, PE
(850) 501-0005 Approved FL5580-R2
History
AffirmationDiversified Window Solutions, Inc.
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Alexis Spyrou, PE
(631) 560-0259 Approved FL6417-R3
History
RevisionTransparent Protection Systems, Inc.
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Jorge A. Pomerantz, P.E.
(954) 394-8521 Approved FL6418-R3
History
RevisionTransparent Protection Systems, Inc.
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Jorge A. Pomerantz, P.E.
(954) 394-8521 Approved FL7344-R4
History
Editorial ChangeMetals USA Building Products
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Jorge A. Pomerantz, P.E.
(954) 394-8521 Approved FL7989-R5
History
AffirmationASI Building Products
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Ryan J. King, P.E.
(813) 787-8283 Approved FL9757-R4
History
RevisionJHRG LLC
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Locke Bowden
(334) 300-1800 Approved FL10106-R2
History
RevisionElite Storm Systems
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Ryan J. King, P.E.
(813) 787-8283 Approved FL10525-R1
History
RevisionClear Strength USA LLC
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels John Henry Kampmann Jr.
(941) 922-3854 Approved FL10905-R1
History
RevisionRELIABLE SHUTTER CO.
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels John Henry Kampmann Jr.
(941) 922-3854 Approved FL11398-R2
History
RevisionTown and Country Industries,
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels ORLANDO L. BLANCO, P.E.
(305) 510-8531 Approved FL11732-R1
History
RevisionFlorida Shutters, Inc.
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels Keith E. Lorinos, PE
(561) 247-0135 Approved FL11964-R1
History
RevisionEastern Metal Supply
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels John Henry Kampmann Jr.
(941) 922-3854 Approved FL11968-R1
History
RevisionEastern Metal Supply
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels John Henry Kampmann Jr.
(941) 922-3854 Approved FL11979-R2
History
AffirmationTown and Country Industries,
Category: Shutters
Subcategory: Storm Panels ORLANDO L. BLANCO, P.E.
(305) 510-8531 Approved FL12582-R2
History

Sry i am not a typer And was just sending an olive branch to help you get through the daily grind of this crap :slight_smile: I did not wish to get into the who’s right about what on the forum.