Anyone notice how the new Star Trek movie alluded to the murder of Osama bin Laden?

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

Jim Kirk correctly disobeyed his commander’s orders, refused to murder Kahn, and instead captured him alive to bring him back for trial.

[jjimenez (Juan C. Jimenez)]

Holy crap. How about a spoiler alert.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

Sorry Juan. Anyway, the movie took a little shot at Obama for entering a sovereign country and killing Bin Laden and his family, even after knowing that he didn’t have anything to do with 9/11.

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

Picture this… Nick in a Theater with 3D glasses on ? LOL !

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@gromicko

Sorry Juan. Anyway, the movie took a little shot at Obama for entering a sovereign country and killing Bin Laden and his family, even after knowing that he didn’t have anything to do with 9/11.

Now while I admit our government lies to us continually, Osama DID claim responsibility.

Admitting for the first time that he ordered the Sept. 11 attacks**, bin Laden said** he did so because of injustices against the Lebanese and Palestinians by Israel and the United States.
In what appeared to be conciliatory language, bin Laden said he wanted to explain why he ordered the airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center (search) and the Pentagon so Americans would know how to act to prevent another attack.

Read more: Man Who Killed Bin Laden | Fox News

[jjimenez (Juan C. Jimenez)]

@gromicko

Sorry Juan. Anyway, the movie took a little shot at Obama for entering a sovereign country and killing Bin Laden and his family, even after knowing that he didn’t have anything to do with 9/11.

Next time put spoiler alert in the title ;). Go ahead and debate with Mike now

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

That old fox news story was incorrect. He was pleased with the retaliation, but had nothing to do with it and said so often.

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@gromicko

That old fox news story was incorrect. He was pleased with the retaliation, but had nothing to do with it and said so often.

Your proof sir?

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

That’s my point. You use a misquoted admission that he never made as evidence (not proof) of guilt. I can’t think of anyone in history who has made it more clear that he had nothing to do with 9/11 than Osama bin Ladin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Responsibility_for_the_September_11_attacks

He had about as much to do with 9/11 as Saddam Hussein did.

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

**And this?

Osama bin Laden:

**

But I am amazed at you. Although we have entered the fourth year after the events of 9/11, Bush is still practicing distortion and deception against you and he is still concealing the true cause from you. Consequentially, the motives for its reoccurrence still exist. I will tell you about the causes underlying these events and I will tell you the truth about the moments this decision was taken, to allow you to reflect.

I say to you, as Allah is my witness: We had not considered attacking the towers, but things reached the breaking point when we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon – then I got this idea.

The events that had a direct influence on me occurred in 1982, and the subsequent events, when the US permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon with the aid of the American sixth fleet.

In those critical moments, I was overwhelmed by ideas that are hard to describe, but they awakened a powerful impulse to reject injustice and gave birth to a firm resolve to punish the oppressors. As I was looking at those destroyed towers in Lebanon, I was struck by the idea of punishing the oppressor in the same manner and destroying towers in the US, to give it a taste of what we have tasted and to deter it from killing our children and women.

[jjimenez (Juan C. Jimenez)]

Wait. Nick, you are mad that they didn’t give him a trial? Isn’t that how our ESOP works???:mrgreen:

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

LOL. Nonsense. Post a YouTube video of that and I’ll have someone translate it correctly for you. I’ll get one of my friends who speak Arabic to translate it.

Furthermore, it is now common knowledge that despite anything he said, he had nothing to do with it. And he repeated over and over that he had nothing to do with it.

Furthermore, a video isn’t a guilty verdict.

[rlewis5 (Roy Lewis, CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR RETIRED)]

I was going to see the movie today, but not now !

[jjimenez (Juan C. Jimenez)]

@rlewis5

I was going to see the movie today, but not now !

Right!! Haha

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

		  			Wait. Nick, you are mad that they didn't give him a trial? Isn't that how out ESOP works???:mrgreen:

Yes, and yes.

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

And this from Nicks own link.

On October 29, 2004, at 21:00 UTC, al Jazeera broadcast excerpts allegedly from a videotape of Osama bin Laden addressing the people of the United States (in which he accepts responsibility for the September 11 attacks) condemns the Bush government’s response to those attacks and presents those attacks as part of a campaign of revenge and deterrence motivated by his witnessing of the destruction in the Lebanese Civil War in 1982. News analysts speculated that the release of the video was timed to influence the 2004 presidential election in the US, which would take place four days later.

2004 Osama bin Laden video

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@gromicko

LOL. Nonsense. Post a YouTube video of that and I’ll have someone translate it correctly for you. I’ll get one of my friends who speak Arabic to translate it.

Furthermore, it is now common knowledge that despite anything he said, he had nothing to do with it. And he repeated over and over that he had nothing to do with it.

Furthermore, a video isn’t a guilty verdict.

http://mprofaca.cro.net/binladen_transcript.html

It is from al Jezzera Nick.

Nice try

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

Guantanamo proves that it is wrong to murder or imprison people forever without trial… because they just might be innocent.

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@gromicko

Guantanamo proves that it is wrong to murder or imprison people forever without trial… because they just might be innocent.

No drift please.

You claimed Osama had nothing to do with 9/11 even thought he admitted in 2004 he did.

Neither of us can prove who did.

Going down the conspiracy road is dangerous because there is a trap door about every 10 feet.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

al Jezzera isn’t a trial.