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| For comparing Bill to Hitler. Maybe you have no sensitivities to the victims of the holocaust, but likely many of the Jewish people on the forum do. |
Why don't you let Bill explain. And stop playing the race card! Just because you compare someone to Hilter is not an anti-semitic remark. No more than the VP of CAHPI telling you to come up here and kick me in the shin, and then stating maybe I will get an infection.
Raymond Wand
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Larry I commend you for your inquistiveness and your right to get answers. When one does not get answers or gets two differing stories you have everyright to seek correct answers! Bravo! I have had to do the same thing. The sad part is once it is found out that you went over peoples heads you are relabled. You can’t win with these myopic soles.
Cheers and thank you for sticking up for what you feel is right!
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
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but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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| Lets face it there will always be a few unhappy campers, regardless of the name of the association. Does that mean things can't and won't change? I think we need to resolve these issue by moving forward in a positive manner - not by reflecting back and dwelling upon possibly past mistakes. We cannot change history. But we can do something to improve our future. |
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Issues are not solved they fester and there are people covering for one another. I am tired of being taken advantage of. I do not roll over and play dead. That is not my nature particularly when I know I am right. I am tired of being accused of being a Nachi member, practicing inspections, misusing my RHI, my posts removed without fairness to the rules and I am tired of not having my written queries responded to. If you like that treatment and you can tolerate that good for you. But don't come here and tell me I must live by rules when it is clear others have no intention of following the rules. The word that comes to mind with regard to my complaints is called negligence. I have also been accused by VP of Oahi of not helping Oahi or volunteering. That is not true what so ever! Further to suggest one is not allowed to be a critic or to question things is totally irrelevent.
Ignorance is bliss I suggest you take your head out of the sand every now and then and see what is going on. The same infringements keep being perpetrated!
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
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but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Originally Posted By: clawrenson
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With facts not speculation alone his logic was flawed. As Bill has pointed out he chose to play the card of "exclusion" as something I stated - which in fact was not something I said. Now if that makes some sense, perhaps reading some post makes Larry?s position purely speculation.
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| Posted: May 1, 2005 6:34 PM Roy you have an honest concern shared by many. CAHPI and the National Initiative should not be perceived as trying to take your livelihood or any other home inspectors livelihood away. That is not the intention. If you review the purpose and mission of the plan you will see it was to unite home inspectors under a common certification system, assist home inspectors in their pursuit of education and training and to instill confidence of the public in recognizing an unregulated industry. |
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| Posted: May 1, 2005 10:18 PM Larry you are welcome to think what you want - but until you have the entire message, you may be prematurely jumping to conclusions. Albeit the final report is not even issued.
No one is forcing anyone to become certified or join CAHPI - if that is your real fear. But than again you may not be able to reap the benefits through the other professions that have aligned themselves to recognize that national certification standard. So that may be your own personal business choice. |
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| Posted: May 2, 2005 From my read of the document and general understanding as a participant in this process - licensing was not and never was the ultimate goal. If that was the case - there should be much to fear. The ultimate goal was and still is self-regulation.
Again no one is going to force an inspector to become nationally certified, however the opportunities, publications and advertisements and decision making choice in the very near future could possibly impact the selection based and reflecting the new standards. |
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| Posted: May 2, 2005 (By Larry Ewens) Again Claude, you and everyone else who seems to be in the know is evading the question. I cannot be more forward than this. Will I have to join CHAPI to be able to write for certification or not? I have no problem with the whole idea of self regulation or for that matter licensing if it comes to that. I agree that a common set of standards and a common code of ethics is required. I just have a problem with the dancing around of the issue of who is going to be responsible for the administration of the exam and who is going to train the panel or board who is proctoring. It appears to everyone outside CAHPI that this is a backdoor approach to enlarge the national association. |
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| Posted: May 2, 2005 Respectfully, YES - I am obliged and also compelled to adhere to officially release that information when it can be "officially" announced. After all I am one of a committee of seven with a vote. I have tried my best to give you my personal POV on certain topics. Others areas are and must remain strictly confidential until final agreement on the document is reached. There are even portions of the document that the committee has not viewed yet - under the final word-smithing of the "consultant".
It simply would not be wise to give you or anyone else a definite answer here without seeing the whole package from start to finish. But in the meantime I can honestly appreciate the anxieties and possible apprehension that can take place until such an official announcement is made. It is my understanding that the final version will likely be a few more weeks. When I find out that it is "official" I will gladly share the report and a response to your concern. Besides the NACHI website is not the only constituent area to release information to. |
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| Posted: May 2, 2005 Campaign on - but please at least be armed with facts and wait to see what the reality of the situation really is. Because a large part of the problem with forum such as this - seems to be trying to help dispel rumours, innuendoes and misinformation. The facts seem to be the best, but sometimes they may not be always available right away. I would rather feel that valuable time can equally be spent helping other inspectors rather than debating political viewpoints on what might be or could be.
As I stated before no one is forcing you to join CAHPI or CAHPI-Ontario. It is like my membership in NACHI or any other organization - strictly a business decision. It does not offer me any more or any less credibility. |
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Originally Posted By: lewens
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You see Claude
I ask a direct question and you reply, Yes. How was I supposed to interperate this? You said yes in direct response to a direct question. If the answer is yes all else is a moot point and I have every right to question the legitimacy of CAHPI to require my participation in membership. You don’t have the right to, at a later date, qualify the answer. That is like saying, screw you, oh sorry I didn’t mean it.
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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| Then why not quit already? icon_rolleyes.gif You've often expounded on how meaningless the RHI acronym is here in Ontario, so it seems to me that you've got everything to gain and nothing to lose by quitting OAHI. If you are unhappy, then go, it's that simple. Don't let the door hit you in the a$% on your way out. icon_wink.gif
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Just maybe I am waiting for happier days. I have paid my dues, you havent. Unlike you I have not stooped to using and uttering threats and sending email viruses or using false names because you couldn't stand being suspended from this forum. I have been a member unlike you since 1991! I have endeavoured on more than one occassion helped out Oahi. If you can't come up with anything clever to say other than asking why don't I quit than maybe you should not be an Associate who has failed to pass the final grade. You are a full time basement digger and deck builder. I have no respect for you and your repeated lack of ethics. I have every right to be a member just as you do.
As to Wolf being kicked off the Canuck forum I find it strange that the only time Wolf said anything he was booted off cause Bill can't take the heat. Your excuse that Hitler was a insult to the Jews on the board is pathetic and speaks to your total lack of understanding. Typical. Just like when he and others on the BOD found themselves under the microscope for their lack of professionalism by complaints from the public they found it easier to get rid of the so called problem (the DPPC) than to have to deal with reality.
As I have told you repeatedly if you have a problem with me or my membership file a complaint or shut up. Please no excuses you are not a rat fink. You don't have any guts to do anything other than see your own lips flap.
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
I find your post most amusing particularly when you can't score points you revert to your childish behaviour.
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Larry
I am with you. The story about the National has changed over the months. First it was for CAHPI members only. No grandfathering, you had to join CAHPI. My my how things have changed from the intial start of this topic on this forum to the present day when Mr. Mullen was kind enough to say anyone can join the National, you do not have to belong to any association. I guess all the squawking and asking the hard questions paid off. Poor Oahi members are still in the dark, while those interested enough to read and think for themselves have asked the hard questions. Oh well Oahi never liked people who could think for themselves or who are smarter than them.
Cheers,
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
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Originally Posted By: Dave Bottoms
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| Hey, I'm not the one accusing other members of sending viruses, taking drugs, alcohol abuse, committing crimes and so on. You're the very last person who should talk about ethics. After all, you're the one given the big boot out of the Ethics Chair, not me. You also ran for a Board seat and lost that too. Don't you think it's time to hang up your hat with OAHI and move on? I'm sure Nick's got a pair of shoes in desperate need of shinning. |
I stand behind my comments. I don't need your stinking money I have the proof provided by Rogers. The only reason I lost on the election not only me but 4 others was because the system was fixed. Even Mr. Allen stooped to low lever tactics and in the end got shafted too for his outspokeness. I am still waiting to for you to provide your official version of why I was canned and why the rest of the DPPC found it necessary to follow in my footsteps. You haven't got a clue, you have no values and you seem quite willing to make boastful statements.
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| Quote: As to Wolf being kicked off the Canuck forum I find it strange that the only time Wolf said anything he was booted off cause Bill can't take the heat. Your excuse that Hitler was a insult to the Jews on the board is pathetic and speaks to your total lack of understanding. |
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| I guess you speak for the Jews now too, eh? Boy, you seem to be the spokesman for almost everyone, even those who'd prefer you didn't speak for them. |
I don't have to speak for the Jews they seem very able to speak for themselves and do. Your statement is totally irrelevent as you are! Besides that is the cheapest excuse I have heard. Because Wolf referred to Bill as Hitler, Bill couldn't let it slide or take it he just axes people. If anyone should be axed from the Canuck list it should have been you when you made yet another faux pas when you told Ari Marantz you were on your way up here to kick me. That is a threat considering what you had done previous to that statement. Guess you know how to kiss a$% real good! You repeatedly have breached the rules and gotten away with it because you kiss a$%.
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| P.S. I can always tell when I've made a good point -- you resort to attacking me personally rather than rebutting the issue. eusa_clap.gif |
Actually I am waiting for you to say something that doesn't have foul language in it or an assumption based on your lack of knowledge of the specific facts at hand. You haven't said anything relevent yet. I guess when you have another brain fart we will all know about it as we will see your lips flap.
Carry on loser!
Raymond Wand
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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| How do you squeeze your head through doorways with that gargantuan ego of yours? icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
Get a grip, Ray, you are an ex-security guard and film set fluffer girl come home inspector. If you lived near me I'd ask you to run to Tim Hortons and pick me up a coffee and a donut. Don't act like you've got a doctorate in home inspection, please? icon_rolleyes.gif Dave |
Whats a matter Bottoms is the pressure getting to you. I think you are very jealous. You are not worldly and it shows. I bet you have never been out of Canada, let alone Ontario. You take the cake for a low life. Now get back to quoting your basement or deck building. If you are walking in the woods alone and no one is there to listen to you are you still right?
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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| Seriously, Raymond, who on earth do you think you are fooling? Are you actually asking these people to believe that you wouldn't take a $grand out of my pocket if you could? Just how stupid do you think these people are? Do you think they don't know what a computer-generated standard form letter from a service provider looks like? icon_rolleyes.gif
Come on, show some respect for the people who are burdened with reading your nonsense, will ya? icon_lol.gif Once again, this only shows what a liar you are, nothing more. Dave |
Oh oh the child speaks again. I don't need a stinking $1,000 of your money considering your a low life. Personally I find it difficult your stuck on the email virus, that would be the least of my worries considering you were reported to the police for uttering threats. You have no concept nor do you seem able to admit remorse. But thats to be expected.
Carry on you are amusing me and the others with your stupid behaviour!
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
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but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Famous quotes by Mr. Bottomless
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Gee I wonder how long before Wonder Boy will realize what an embarrassment he is before pulling his posts! Of course if I had a mouth like yours I'd be removing them too. You should have listen to James Quinn that was the most accurate statement made by someone with no grudge to bear.
Raymond Wand
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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I have posted the email virus you sent on this forum but it has been removed sometime ago. I also found out that you contacted my internet provider and tried to pass yourself off as me so you could cause harm by changing my passwords. Oh well its amazing what I can find out about you and just what tatics you will stoop to. You seem to have the mind of criminal, and keep showing your intent.
Have you tried shopping at Winners? They might have something that suits your loser lifestyle.  
Raymond Wand
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Originally Posted By: lewens
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Touche Mr Wand Touche
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Larry is that Touche or is it pronounced Touchy?
I love it when you speak French! ROFL!
Cheers
Raymond Wand
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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Hey Bottomless I think you should take you frustration out on CMHC they seemed to have pegged you perfectly.
Buying a home is probably one of the most expensive and important decisions you?ll ever make. But unlike many of life?s other major purchases, when it comes to buying a house there?s no such think as a money-back guarantee.
Once you buy a home, you?re on your own to maintain and repair it, anticipate problems ? and pay the bills. Hiring a professional home inspector can help you find out as much as possible about a home?s condition, habitability and safety before you sing on the dotted line.
To help you make more informed decisions ? and keep any unpleasant surprises to a minimum ? Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) has several tips to help you find and select a home inspector, including:
RECOMMENDATIONS
First, ask friends of family members who have recently purchased a home for a recommendation, or check association websites, the yellow pages or housing trade magazines to find a qualified home inspector in your area.
Make sure the home inspector is an experienced, full-time inspector, not a renovator or contractor with an inspection business on the side.
THE RIGHT PEOPLE
? Look for inspectors who belong to a provincial association and determine if they intend to meet the standards of competency which are currently being developed by the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors.
REFERENCES
? Ask for three references, and call them to see whether they were satisfied with the service they received.
? Choose only home inspectors who are not associated with any other construction or housing trade, and who therefore don?t carry out repairs or improvements themselves.
? Make sure the home inspector does not solicit, receive or give referral fees.
? Ensure that the inspection is carried out during the day as night time inspections may miss vital components of the exterior of the house.
INFORMATION
? Find out where you can get more information about the inspector and his or her firm, such as the firms? web- site address or industry association.
Finally, ask what you receive once the inspection is complete, and when you can expect to receive it.
A professional inspector should provide written report reviewing every major exterior and interior system and component in the home, usually within hours 24 hours of the inspection.
CONTACT
For more information tact CMBC at 800-668-2& visit the website www.cmhc.ca.
Gotta give the loser some credit he may know a thing or two about basements, but he knows nada about everything else.
Now back to our regularly scheduled lip flap by Bottomless.  
Raymond Wand
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Originally Posted By: rwand
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| Only you'd be stupid enough to buy into his crap. Why doesn't that surprise me at all. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Likely because you don't have a brain. Okay sorry you do have a brain but its about the size of a pea!    
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
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but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Originally Posted By: Bill Mullen RHI
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Raymond Wand said:
Larry
"I am with you. The story about the National has changed over the months. First it was for CAHPI members only. No grandfathering, you had to join CAHPI. My my how things have changed from the intial start of this topic on this forum to the present day when Mr. Mullen was kind enough to say anyone can join the National, you do not have to belong to any association. I guess all the squawking and asking the hard questions paid off. Poor Oahi members are still in the dark, while those interested enough to read and think for themselves have asked the hard questions. Oh well Oahi never liked people who could think for themselves or who are smarter than them. "
Cheers,
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
Just for clarification, the story has never changed. It might have become clearer as matters developed and issues were resolved, but the story has always been consistent.
Nobody, including myself ever said that CAHPI membership would be mandatory. It was considered along with other options but it was decided against. Some of us likely said that it would be preferable to belong to CAHPI, and I stick with that. The only ones who said you had to join CAHPI were paranoid inspectors who thought CAHPI was going to put them out of work.
As for the Grandfathering issue, it has never changed. There will be no grandfathering of anyone.
Hard questions? Hardly. Merely misunderstandings that needed to be clarified.
The details will be out soon enough, and I predict that most genuine Canadian inspectors will be pleased. I encourage people to be patient and let the National Certification Model unfold.
As I said, this is just for clarification. I don't want to enter into any arguments with anyone, because the decisions have been made and the terms and requirements have been established.
Bill Mullen RHI
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Thanks Bill.
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