FLUKE releases new IR camera for inspectors... low price!

Have a good one.

Remind me never to get on your bad side :slight_smile:

Kevin

At least I have 3 years of IR experience and you have zero.
Please point out any errors in our class and I will be happy
to fix them. Remember, Will Decker (level II, and decades
of IR experience) help write our class. Please provide facts
and details so we can all learn.

FLUKE puts out a low priced camera that is about the same
level as the FLIR BCAM model and now all the supposed
experts say it is not going to work. The facts is, these
kinds of cameras have been working for years already
and will continue to do so. Even RESNET says they work.

I like the truth, it is so simple.

Bushart,

You have zero IR training or experience.
You just now got trained for energy audits.

This does not seem to stop you from presenting yourself
as an expert. You say IR has no real value while making
severe errors in your statements. Keep talking, your
doing a fine job.

You got your facts wrong. I was certified by FLIR-ITC
right after I got my IR camera. I began teaching a class
a year later. I never got trained from only a CD nor
did I ever claim that was my sole source of training.

I made a home inspector video for my website, as did
others, after using my camera for approx 9 months.

Shortly after that, myself and Will Decker announced
an upcoming IR class (the class was set for a couple
months later) Will started out teaching and I came
behind him. Will was a good mentor for me. I give
him the credit for the huge amount of work and time
he spent helping me and InterNACHI.

Hundreds are now operating their IR business from our
IR class. Other IR educators have copied our format
.:mrgreen:

I know just enough to get in trouble, really…

**********************President - Master Inspector Certification Board
3 Yrs Certified FLIR - ITC Thermographer (#33493)
12 Yrs Licensed Inspector And Trainer (TREC #4565)
TREC Approved MCE Instructor (TREC #88105052)
International Assoc. Of Certified Home Inspectors
25 Years Hands-On Construction Experience

**********************Bushart,

You just got certified for energy audits and you out promoting
yourself and charging people for your expert services? Are
you qualified yet? Is it OK for you to do that?

You have zero training or experience in IR, but seem to be
very bold in your erroneous statements about IR without
shame or hesitation.

What is your point? What drives you so mad to portray such
drama?


Please post your resume. :mrgreen:


Here are a couple of tips that some may find very useful. They were written by someone I respect immensely. He is a true pioneer of the Thermography Industry.



http://www.irinfo.org/tip_of_week_2006.html#t06202006

Kevin

That’s probably some good reading but I’d have to take him off of my ignore list to read it. I have heard not so good things about the course from someone who invested their money in it though.

From this message board there are threads that I have copied to this one that show you, in 5/07 not knowing what inspectors charge for their “scanning” and having never operated an IR camera and, within 7 months, teaching a two day course to certify others.

Yes, I have recently been certified by BPI as a Building Analyst…but, unlike you, I have not declared myself qualified to teach and to certify others for a fee.

At least you are the cheapest in the United States, according to your advertising. Apparently, for good reason.

Joe Farsetta teaches a Commercial inspection certification
class that is cheaper than mine. Almost all InterNACHI
instructors charge less than me.

What is wrong? Where is the error? What is your point?
You continue to advise us on IR and know nothing of
the subject. Several have told you lay off and go take
a class James.

I’ve said all I need to say.

You bought your camera in May…you announced a class to “certify” others that you “co-wrote” and were recruiting for students seven months later.

That says it all.

(P.S. I spend several thousand per year in training and in new equipment and, for the record, I wouldn’t take your class if it were free. You are not the first charlatan vendor to exploit newbies on the NACHI message board.)

The INFRARED CERTIFIED logo was not approved until
Feb 08. We had our grand opening class in Denver in May 08.
We did a small pilot class via teleconference before that
with Will Decking taking the lead. I learned a lot from him.
I was not teaching 7 months later. Sorry, you are wrong.

We announced our plans way early to see what the needs
were and to gather feed back. Look up the InterNACHI
archives.

Writing the course and working out all the bugs took a long
time for me, Will and Nick. A lot of steps had to be in place
to get lift off.

Before you condemn me, just know that I welcome your
input and still invite you to correct any errors you see. We
need facts please.

And yet until today, when this camera released, you were the using the low price approach. I remember correctly one of your PDF’s you email blasted pointed out that there was not a need to purchase a camera for more than $3299.00.

Competition is good Leslie, it is capitalism at its best. As an added benefit, those considering IR in this price range can keep their money right here in the good ole US of A.

Jason Kaylor – JJ
VP of Specialty Products
877/207-1244
AC Tool Supply
Energy Audit
Krendl 425
BPI Class
Fluke TiS

Nick has always said that he wants his inspectors to get the
best deal on tools and training. Salesmen do not mind showing
off their low prices, until I under cut them…:mrgreen: Sorry guys.
I just can’t help it. I keep finding these good deals for InterNACHI
members.

JJ,

Your a straight shooter. I’ve enjoyed my experience with purchasing equipment from your store.

“If you’re not making mistakes, you’re not taking risks, and that means you’re not going anywhere. The key is to make mistakes faster than the competition, so you have more changes to learn and win.”

-John W. Holt

Kevin

BPI does not include thermal imaging devices as “needed” on their equipment list, but they do remark that if you are going to get one, it should be 120x240, minimum.

Thus, by BPI standards that does not even include thermal imaging devices as necessary, the one recommended by “the Professor”, here, is of less quality than the minimum recommended.
*
“Step a little closer to the tent, Sonny…and look at the deal we have for you, today…”*

I would not perform a Home Energy Performance Audit without an infrared camera. While not absolutely needed, it is a tool that makes the audit process a lot more easier.

I think the reference you supplied from BPI is either inacurate or simply a typo. I’m not aware of a 120x240 resolution camera on the market today.

Kevin

As Richard stated, the info James provided is in error.

BPI and RESNET are setting the same standard at 120x120.

There are no such thing as 120x240 infrared camera.

Hold on, Professor.

Show me something from BPI supporting your claim that they have set the standard at 120 x 120. Do you just make this up as you go along?

For three years, representatives of RESNET and the Building Performance Institute (BPI) have been developing a new joint certification, the Comprehensive Home Energy Auditor. Individuals certified through the joint RESNET/BPI standard will be able to conduct both home energy ratings and building analysis for home performance contractors.

With increasing energy costs, thermal imaging cameras have quickly become prevalent for commercial and residential building inspection. Building structures commonly exhibit quality and performance problems caused during construction and maintenance that can impact energy performance and, in some cases, render them dangerous. Regardless of the building type involved, infrared imaging has been shown to provide remarkable, nondestructive information about construction details and building performance.

http://archive.resnet.us/conference/2009/sessions.htm

How are they going to certify a joint RESNET/BPI auditor if
everyone uses different standards???

BPI/RESNET is in the process of developing an inspection standard and
protocol for certifying thermogrphers - The Snell Group (page 4)

http://www.vtenergystarhomes.com/stella/filelib/BBD10_Snell_InfraredThermography2.pdf

Relax James… Infrared is coming to a town near you.

RESNET Proposed Standard = 120x120 - The Snell Group (page 4)

http://www.affordablecomfort.org/images/Events/32/Courses/1342/C%26S8_Snell_060109_ACI09_Overview_building_standards.pdf

You quoted BPI. I could care less about Resnet, since they simply rate new construction.

So you know, there is no such thing as “BPI/Resnet”. They are two totally different associations that do two totally different things…but you knew that, right? right?

Show me the source where BPI is recommending the 120 x 120, which you previously stated. Did you make that up, too?

Snell stated that BPI and RESNET are working together to
set up the thermographic standards. Snell is the man pulling
the handles behind the curtain. 120x120 is the standard
agreed upon (at this time).

Call Snell and let him tell you. Do you know who Snell is?
Please don’t tell him the standard is 120x240. He may
not want to talk to you, genius.

Some of us IR geeks follow this stuff.