While you state that RESnet has a “standard” that requires 120x120 (although their published standards make no such reference) you have simply shown where BPI refers to RESnet standards…not where, as you stated “BPI Standard is 120x120”.
You made it up.
BPI has no standard for thermography…and RESnet’s published standard does not say what you said it does.
In fact, according to this report…RESnet was still in the process of establishing a standard as recently as four months ago.
So, Professor…the truth of the matter is, as we speak, there is no BPI Standard (which you quoted) or RESnet standard (which you referred to). And according to the draft of the RESnet standard, there is no mention of 120x120 minimum.
You have been outed, again, Professor Charlatan. The course you wrote within seven months of learning how to turn on your camera…hopefully, was better researched than your posts.
“Step right up, ladies and gentlemen…for a measly 500 smackers, come inside the tent and see the bearded lady and the wild monkey boy from Borneo…”
Now, you have someone else who sells training to support your claim that … someday, perhaps…they will exist.
Yet, today…you encourage unsuspecting newbies to invest a couple of grand into an inferior product that, as far as you know, may not meet the minimum standard…even while assuring us all that “BPI standards” approve 120x120.
Wipe the drool from your shirt and go do something that you suck at less than this.
If you go look at webpages that sell IR cameras, it is common
text to read “meets proposed RESNET/BPI standards”. I was
making the same type of comment. It is common knowledge.
It would be foolish to buy anything less. I use one of these
kinds of cameras and it works fine for me and thousands of
others.
Did you find that 120x240 camera yet? You know the one
that you said is recommended by BPI. It does not exist genius.
Anymore advise?
Do you still believe the inside and outside temperature are
suppose to be the same before an IR camera will work?
You didn’t know BPI says to follow RESNET standards?
You said the other day you were going to buy an IR camera.
Do you still say it is useless? Why buy one then?
Tell us how much we don’t need an IR camera, while BPI
and RESNET are creating standards and certifications for
it’s use. You will be lost in the stone age.
Have you ever been trained in IR? Nope… zero… what
other nuggets of wisdom do you have for us genius.?
James, in defense of John, the rumor in the industry is that BPI will simply attach (adopt) the Resnet IR standard if/when it is put in to practice.
The original rumor was actually semi started by Larry Zarker, the President of BPI. While at the last Resnet conference he was quoted as saying something to the tune of simply attaching to the Resnet IR standard if/when it was implimented.
If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense for BPI to follow the Resnet IR standard to the tee. It has been a couple years of work for Resnet. Resnet paid a lot of money to have it produced. Why take the time and money to develop another energy auditing type of IR standard? BPI is already swamped and very backed up in even getting out BA certs (6 to 8 weeks currently), let alone taking on a large scale project like an IR standard. With Home Star on the horizon BPI is going to get even more swamped. As of today 35 states still do not have a Gold Star contractor, they simply will not have time to develop their own IR standard.
Do not take this the wrong way, but BPI and Resnet cannot hold a candle to the knowledge of a John Snell, Jim Seffrin or the guys over at FLIR on IR…just like those same people could not compare to BPI’s or Resnet’s experience in weatherization. Saying that BPI recommends a 240x120 camera (which doesn’t even exist) is well…I have to throw the challenge flag on that statement.
John went from “Where is the on button?” to writing a certification course in only 7 months. After two years of charging people money for his six months of expertise…the best he can do is publish rumors as fact regarding a cheap camera he wants to push.
As to BPI recommending a 120x240 camera…please refer to their document. These were not my words. We are left to guess if they meant 120x120 (as John errantly quoted as being their “standard”) or if they meant 240x240.
In any event…contrary to what he published…neither BPI or RESnet has a standard for an IR camera. John did not publish what he called a “rumor” but what he called a “standard”. By the way, in the draft of the proposed standard RESnet has published…120x120 is not even mentioned.
This is less than what one would expect when paying for the cheapest IR class in the USA, I would think.
Resnet does have a standard. The implementation of it is what is up in the air right now. It is more about how the 8 hours of hands on training is going to be handled. As of right now it reads 16 hours of class room or online training and 8 hours of hands on training. From what I know Resnet wants to keep this in the hands of the providers, for obvious reasons.
Resnet recently re did their web site and the link for the standard is broken right now, but here is a quote from John in another board quoting the 120x120. http://www.irtalk.com/forums/2718/ShowThread.aspx That post is over a year old, but it has stayed at 120x120. Other camera specification listed in the standard are .1c at 30c for the thermal sensitivity and a 3.0 mrad, which knocks out a few of the lower end camera offerings.
I am not sure about that 240x120 mention in that BPI recommended equipment list. That has to be a typo. There is no such thing as a 240x120 camera, that I know of.
Remember when James was bashing licensing and infrared imagers? He needs to take your course and get educated, then he needs a few years of experience. He’s just learning. Maybe he’s not making any money on his investment in his new field. I think Jimmy may be a little frustrated!!!:p:p Keep up the good work John.
It’s great fluke came out with low end camera. For $1000 dollars more, it cant compare it with the Testo 875-2. Just talking about low end cameras. I think for starting out it gives you more room to grow.