Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Who cares?
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Joe Myers
A & N Inspections, Inc.
http://anii.biz
Who cares?
Originally Posted By: Ben Gromicko
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Everyone cares that you’re an ASHI member. Believe me. But what I tell them is of my dissatisfaction with them.
People (buyers and agents) actually believe that ASHI is the only way to go. I bought into that - for the good of my company. Some buyers and agents won't have anything to do with ya, if your're not ASHI. The problem is ASHI has so much money that they lobby states - that's where power lies. In legislation. Look at PHIC. PHIC exists to coerce and control home inspectors and their associations with more legislation.
I say - scrap all of these requirements - and make one state certification liscencing requirement for home inspectors. Which will have nothing - absolutely nothing - to do with you joining NACHI, ASHI, NAHI, SREI, etc.
You would be state certified by PA. And your memberships with other associations will be a separate issue.
Right now, it seems that ASHI is trying to make our legislators across the country to make laws requiring home inspectors to follow a state law (which includes being a member of ASHI). A private corp. making state laws!!!!??!!
That's how I see it. And I don't wear glasses.
Joe, you wear glasses. How can you see ampacity problems through those dirty things?
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Benjamin John Gromicko
Vice-President,
PEACH Inspections
NACHI & ASHI Member
Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Fortunately Ben you are right, many brokers and agents do not want to have anything to do with you if you are not ASHI! In my humble opinion ASHI is a four letter word, although that does not help you much if you are starving.
I hear all the time, most of this is the Nicks fault because he P'd of so many people. The fact remains it was all of us. We not only did very little to help him but we did very little to get NACHI recognized nationally and accepted as JAFHIO.
The ones I have the most trouble getting in with are the old timers, who see ASHI just like ASHI see themselves, in GODS LIKENESS.
Fortunately for us it does not have to stay that way. There was plenty of damage done but nothing we can not reverse. The only question that remains is who is going to help undo what was done?
I will personally shut up those that are spreading the lies around. I have already begun that quest. I have started with Mr. Kelly and the other members and will soon move onto the legislature and attorney general. The Comsumer Protection Agency will know me personally until I am done.
One thing we can do is to let people know we are qualified and stop badmouthing the other organizations.
It would help if we got together and produced some indemnity insurance that would cover the agents against negligent referrals. Who is game? I am. Then you could do some direct mailing and contact brokers and let them know we have them covered.
When someone does make a claim against us lets make sure we make it right so they are happy and brokers and agents are sure the CAN TRUST US!!
This would be to everyone's benefit, especially ours.
Glasses? Oh yeah that is right I do wear glasses. I thought I was having a rather difficult time seeing lately. Thanks Ben. You mean I SHOULD be looking for ampacity problems!! Are us inspectors allowed to do that? Sounds kinda shady to me!
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Joe Myers
A & N Inspections, Inc.
http://anii.biz
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Joe,
Youre right. ASHI is a self-promoting elitist juggernaut. THEY are the ones pushing legishation, and they want only THEIR version. I believe the purpose is purely protectionist. Realtors want legislation as well. Funny... Tell them that it needs to include heavy penalties for realtors who attempt to influence the outcome of an inspection (via referrals, threats, soft-selling defects, etc) and WATCH OUT! If you want to protect the consumer, require that all inspectors be registered, carry insurance (liability and E&O) and can pass an exam. Another example of how ASHI stamps its feet like a 2-year old is happening in Connecticut. Seems that Conn scrapped the ASHI inspector exam in favor of their own. ASHI's posturing backfired. Now their members dont know WHAT to inspect. BTW: the test? Well its being written and administrated by the firm who developed the tests in that state for Architects and PE's. Think many HI's will pass? Time will tell. And, they want to make the law so ALL HIs must take and pass the exam. No grandfathering...
As far as referring-party indemnification is concerned, it is already available. I am a new inspector and I have it. Got it through FREA.
Joe Farsetta
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Joe Farsetta
Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."
Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Guys,
One more thing. Joe Meyers mentioned that Nick helped PO a bunch of prople.
"I hear all the time, most of this is the Nicks fault because he P'd of so many people. The fact remains it was all of us. We not only did very little to help him but we did very little to get NACHI recognized nationally and accepted as JAFHIO."
Waht does this mean? What's the background. I like the org, and just want to know some history/current events. Is this limited to PA, or is NACHI black-listed in general? I use the NACHI logo in my brochure, same with FREA. It shows that I am a member of national organizations. Lots of guys have ASHI logos on their cards. I wont be joining ASHI anytime soon.
Nick tells me that NACHI is recognized and accredited. I have no reason to doubt him, but what does "JAFHIO" stand for, who is Mr. Kelly, and what kind of lies are being told? If it is widespread, I'll start my own letter-writing campain here in NY. I've already opened a dialog with several state senators and assembly members regarding HI legislation.
Joe
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Joe Farsetta
Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."
Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Hello Joe,
I am trying to say that other members of NACHI did very little to help Nick with the organization.
Nick is the kind of person you either hate or love, there is no in between. We have all made our fair share of enemies and Nick has made more than his fare share. I believe it is mostly due to the fact people are jealous because he is successful in everything he does.
Regardless, if people are using you for their home inspections it will be mostly because they like you, not because they do not like your organization. I have found most agents like me because I am up front and cut out all of the "bull". This has been far more valuable than what organization I "do" or "do not" belong too.
Joe Myers
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Joe Myers
A & N Inspections, Inc.
http://anii.biz
Originally Posted By: jremas
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Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Hello Jeff and welcome,
You will find competetiveness anywhere you go. As for the organization you belong to it will depend on who you define as your market. If you are looking to take over the old timers it would help to join ASHI. I go after mostly new agents and all they really care about is that you are compliant with the law.
The bottom line is that no matter what organization you belong, you have lots of work ahead of you to prove to everyone you are a good home inspector. You can join all three if you wish, some members belong to two associations.
Hope this helps!
Joe Myers