Originally Posted By: gromicko
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, be an inspector in 30 seconds, Candidacy program.
I'll keep you posted on developments.
, be an inspector in 30 seconds, Candidacy program.
I'll keep you posted on developments.
Originally Posted By: escanlan
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How about a little more detail of what the Feds are up to??
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Manny (Emmanuel) Scanlan
Knowledge is power, but sharing knowledge brings peace!
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Nick;
This is good news, and hope it goes through for you, because it is about goddarn time that this outfit gets positioned where they belong.
Most of these inspectors around here are all in cahouts with the realestate agents to provide a simple checklist meaning bang, bang, and thankyou mame report and everyone is happy and the sales go through. The new homeowners in general don't have a clue, and the realestate agent smiles all the way to the bank.
This is gone long enough in my opinion, and time for something like this to happen.
I will also be glad when the State of Maine starts mandateing a license.
Thanks for your time.
Marcel
Originally Posted By: dgriffith
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It’s like that here too Marcel and I suspect just about anywhere ASHI exists. Some say the reason realtors prefer ASHI is because they have been around longer and more professional but I believe the real reason is just as you say, nothing but collusion. But I’m sure there are ASHI inspector’s who are honest but just happen to belong to a dishonest organization only interested in dues.
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Originally Posted By: dduffy
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| mcyr wrote: |
| Most of these inspectors around here are all in cahouts with the realestate agents to provide a simple checklist meaning bang, bang, and thankyou mame report and everyone is happy and the sales go through. The new homeowners in general don't have a clue, and the realestate agent smiles all the way to the bank. |
I have found the same thing, seeing copies of check list reports for three houses I have sold this year. Pathetic. If these inspectors are not working in the best interest of the Realtor they should have their license torn-up.
"Appears Serviceable" (x) "Monitor" ( ) "Repair or Replace" ( )
Originally Posted By: jkormos
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Can’t we just all get along. If you want to be the best just be your best, the rest will shake out inthe end.
Originally Posted By: rcooke
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| jkormos wrote: |
| Can't we just all get along. If you want to be the best just be your best, the rest will shake out inthe end. |
I do not know the story of ASHI USA but the Canadian Chapter of ASHI (OAHI) continues to tell lies and belittle NACHI.
On a list up here and the president ( Bill Mullen ) of CAHPI offered an Olive Branch of peace.
This was excepted with open arms by all Canadian NACHI members and
Bill Mullen violated his offer BIG TIME in less then 24 hours .
He still continues to send out much false information .
Some times the best way to fight fire is with fire .
The fortunate thing is we Canadian NACHI members do not have to tell lies just show where Bill Mullen puts out false information.
Roy Cooke sr
A HAPPY NACHI Member
Originally Posted By: ekartal5
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Individual inspectors are the ones that play the realtor game - not the association. I know many, many ASHI guys that don’t work with agents. NACHI chases realtors as much as anyone. Let’s get honest here.
Erol Kartal
ProInspect
Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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inspectors. It is about time diploma mill ASHI was shut down. But again, it has nothing to do with REALTORs or individual inspectors.
Originally Posted By: wdecker
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Nick;
With respect, Really.
You are speaking if non-license states, where you have experience and cannot seem to get out of.
In license states, the state says we are qualified. For good or bad, a government authority (AHJ) means more than what some private association has to say.
We have made great progress with working with other associations. Why do you seem to want to screw this up?
I really want an answer. I believe that the membership does as well.
If you disagree, what does it matter what a 'janitor' has to say?
You are fooling no one.
Hope this helps.
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Will Decker
Decker Home Services
Skokie, IL 60076
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Originally Posted By: jschwartz1
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What I found to be absolutely hilarious is the info before you get to the application. I just cut and pasted it as noted..........
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| ASHI provides all home inspectors with the best in education, training, products, services, marketing, public relations, advocacy and networking opportunities. Join the over 6000 professiona l home inspectors who benefit from their membership in ASHI. |
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| Search by State for ASHI Candidate InspectorsYou can try to find the candidate ASHI Inspector you need with our easy-to-use search tool, capable of locating ASHI Candidate inspectors in every state, plus Canada. Keep in mind that ASHI Candidates have not yet met the ASHI member requirements, however. ASHI Candidates may be highly experienced inspectors who have just joined ASHI, or they may be novice inspectors who have completed training or otherwise entered the profession. |
Originally Posted By: mcyr
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Hi. to you all.
Erol and Will, no disrespect for your views as well as mine.
It might be the individual playing the game, but I would remember and know that the players make the team and/or workers make the Company you stand for or work for.
If this does not happen, the Company (ASHI) has a problem. What has this Organization done about it, Zilch!. Nachi promotes and helps it's members stay in tabs with new educational ideas, further their education with new educational ideas, news of what's going on in the industry and most ever support it's members when the going gets tuff, by supporting the message board that we are in at the moment.
The ASHI membership to me for what I have seen in the Arena, are promoters of false pretenses that have paid a fee for the title of being an inspector of homes. They are actually trying to defend something thery were not capable of achieving in the real world themselves.
Everyone dreams of being an inspector of some sort in life in whatever vocation they are doing, because it usually means more pay, and don't have to work as hard. This has to be earned in order to merit that title.
A mere writing of a check for a certain amount to be an Inspector of Dwellings the next day is far from being adequate. Since the consumer is gullible to this type of work, problems only arise after the sale has occurred.
I think what Nick is trying to point out is the fact the that Organization is delingquent in the politically correct arena in providing adequate and qualified Home Inspectors.
I deal with Architects and Engineers on a daily basis and will not tollerate their ignorance to facts. (Don't tel me what to do or how it should be done if you can't even design it right to begin with. ) Of course, don't forget the clerk of the works, (hey I am an Inspector Now.) I could not do the work, but I can tell you what you are doing wrong per the black and white sentences they call the specs.
Nick, keep up the good work. I might not agree with everything you do, but that is only my opinon and everyone has one of those.
Take care.
Marcel
Originally Posted By: ekartal5
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I agree the sign up process for ASHI is easy. Fill out the application, send a check etc; but this is to become a Candiate Member only. ASHI is admitting to the public that they are new inspectors. I don’t see where they are trying to fool anyone. When new NACHI inspectors take the online quiz to become certified do you think they tell the public that they have less than 50 inspections under their belt? Of course not! At least ASHI is saying the candidates are just that and nothing more.
Erol Kartal
ProInspect
Originally Posted By: gporter
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Good news
Originally Posted By: ekartal5
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We have made great progress with working with other associations. Why do you seem to want to screw this up? I really want an answer. I believe that the membership does as well. |
It's embarrassing. Some of us just meet with the senior ASHI official in Illinois then we read about the government plots to shut down ASHI and scum bag NAHI rhetoric. Nick you are not serving the best interests of your members by having personal vendettas. You know that least 90% of your members hate this stuff. Don't you care what they think?
Erol Kartal
ProInspect
Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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It's embarrassing. Some of us just meet with the senior ASHI official in Illinois then we read about the government plots to shut down ASHI and scum bag NAHI rhetoric. Nick you are not serving the best interests of your members by having personal vendettas. You know that least 90% of your members hate this stuff. Don't you care what they think? Erol Kartal ProInspect |
whilst I agree with you both, lets not forget about those who have joined other associations without any qualifications what so ever, including a guy with a white stick.
but enough is enough, Nick please give this up
Regards
Gerry
Originally Posted By: tallen
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And I though everyone was getting along so well lately.
Shutting down ASHI or NAHI or whoever is in the crosshairs today, will not help the HI industry. It's kind of the same as with local competition amongst HI Companies, the more the merrier and when you really think about it, it's every Man for himself.
I am sure that ASHI still has most of the power in a lot of places, but it has leveled out quite nicely here. I have not been asked whether or not I belonged to ANY association in quite a long time. If I am questioned about credentials of any kind it's "what?s your AZ cert #" and that, in my mind, is just as it should be.
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Originally Posted By: dvalley
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I could care less about A$HI inspectors or their workings, in my area.
I haven't heard the A$HI name in quite a while. Once Massachusetts HI legislation kicked in (a few years ago) and regulated all HI's, the home buyers (here) don't really care what HI organization you are part of, when they are seeking a home inspection.
Here...It's all about "What HI company is better than the other", or "Which HI company is more thorough than the others". I do not get turned down because I'm not an A$HI member.
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David Valley
MAB Member
Massachusetts Certified Home Inspections
http://www.masscertified.com
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."
Originally Posted By: cradan
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. Every H.I. organization existing today has its share of idiot inspectors (and that includes NACHI). The questions I’d have for ASHI (and for our janitor, as well) might look more like this:
1.) What have you done, and what are you doing, to work-on state level model legislation which looks more like Massachusetts' legislation, i.e. helping to remove (by process) referral conflicts-of-interest?
2.) Lenders and Realtors, through HUD, have very successfully promoted and protected their "interests" in the real estate transaction process. What have you done, and what are you doing, specifically, to work toward having a private, professional inspection be a mandatory component of the real estate transaction process?
Wanna help professional inspectors? Spend less time worrying about what other organizations do or don't do, spend less time (and money) on organizational sponsorship(s) for 212 mph tonka toys, spend more money and effort on #1 and #2, above.
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Chris
http://www.inspect4me.com
Chicago Illinois Home Inspections
Originally Posted By: wdecker
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Chris Raden Wrote:
" Every H.I. organization existing today has its share of idiot inspectors (and that includes NACHI). "
Hey! I resemble that remark!
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Will Decker
Decker Home Services
Skokie, IL 60076
wjd@DeckerHomeServices.com