How to fill out the check box on page three

Is the picture below how you are supposed to fill out the check box section?
I thought it was only supposed to be one box per row.

Sorry, I meant column.

In the chart it says…

Place an “X” in each row to identify all forms of protection in use for each opening type.

…based on this (“all forms”), we add multiple marks to each row if warranted.

Even in the columns we put multiple marks (based on Bill York’s class when the new form came out).

Why?

Check only one answer below (A thru X), based on the weakest
form of protection (lowest row) for any of the Glazed openings and indicate the weakest form of protection (lowest row) for Non‐Glazed openings.

Do they also teach to write “N/A” on the N/A row?

Why not just fill out the form like this:
:mrgreen:

I do not do it like the first example either.

It would appear to me, that it is a contradiction to the instructions on the form.
“Lowest” is an absolute. Therefore, there should only be one check-box marked.

I am almost positive I heard John describing how to fill this out as follows: go to the item, glazed doors for instance, go down the column until you find the “weakest” rating and place a mark in that box. Do so for each item and then when you are done, go to the 1-7 sections and fill those out according to the data gathered in the table.

The way I understand it is this…

Place an “X” in each row to identify all forms of protection in use for each opening type.

“each row” = N/A, A, B, C, D N, X
“all forms” = possibility of more than one “X” can be included in each column and/or row
“each opening type” = each column

Check only one answer below (A thru X), based on the weakest form of protection…

This has nothing to do with marking the chart. This has to do with marking the answer (A1, A2, A3, etc.)

Then why is there A-X on the table?

Re-read what you just posted.

The instructions are in the table, therefore they pertain to the table.

Here are the instructions for the section:

Opening Protection: What is the weakest form of wind borne debris protection installed on the structure?

** First, use the table to
determine the weakest form of protection for each category of opening. **

Second, (a) check one answer below (A, B, C, N, or X)
based upon the lowest protection level for ALL Glazed openings and (b) check the protection level for all Non-Glazed openings (.1,
.2, or .3) as applicable.

As I pointed out above in the previous picture, using the method taught by Bill York, you could mark every check-box except the N/A, which would seem to be pointless and a waste of time.

I only mark one mark in each row and ALL have been accepted. The Weakest.

My bad one mark in each Column.

Every instructor and every class makes up their own way of what they do and what is acceptable.

1 mark per column, rows may have multible marks. Anything else is incorrect based on the following directions:

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I agree with Jay, esp. since I took a pic of his marks on a truss in an attic today!

Nice! :smiley:

Most forms completed with multiple marks in the columns look a lot like the photo in your original post and nothing like the photo in post #4. Something is seriously wrong if a report even remotely looks like the photo in post #4.

And consider this example…a house with a front door with unprotected tempered glass and documented MDCA impact windows everywhere else. If we are to “identify all forms of protection in use for each opening type”, how are we to do this without multiple marks in the Glazed Openings – Windows or Entry Doors column? Either the two-sentence instructions in the chart are a complete contradiction (if the second sentence pertains to filling out the chart) OR the second sentence pertains to the answers (A1, A2, A3, etc.) based on how the chart is completed (with multiple marks in columns if necessary).

Also, from InterNACHI’s How to Perform Wind Mitigation Inspections:

The Opening Protection Level Chart

The chart should be filled out with at least one X in each column.”

I agree with Michael Wagner on this and do recall when taking the wind MIT class with Bill York it was even suggested we place numbers by the X marks denoting the quantity of openings pertaining to that particular opening type. I don’t do it that way but I do however mark as many opening types as exist within the form.

Bert

The IN the TABLE clearly states, “Check only one answer below (A thru X), based on the weakest form of protection (lowest row) for any of the Glazed openings and indicate the weakest form of protection (lowest row) for Non Glazed openings.”

The chart is used to determine the correct answer below it. I do not see how it would matter if you marked all boxes. You still will answer the weakest below.

Exactly John. I think the chart is basically to give the insurance company an overview (and the pictures substantiate it) of what is there. Then below the chart is where the single weakest form of protection is marked off.

Bert

Only one selection per column guys (weakest form of protection for each) or N/A. If you want to include a breakdown, put your remarks on a comment page.

There is a blank place on the page below the table, we make comments there.

Like here: http://honorconstruction.com/files/18022012SampleExt.pdf

Just fill it out.

No comments necessary :slight_smile:

Comments ONLY CONFUSE THEM.

Sad but true.

We should only mention what matters. If it does not matter it should not be answered :slight_smile:
OR ASKED

K.I.S.S.