In 2018 InterNACHI will be offering all of N. America free home inspections forever.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

Just read Nick’s post. It’s pretty straight forward.

You will advertise free pre-listing inspections. NACHI will pay you. You take work as much as your phone rings.

Bingo.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

And agents are going to get fat rich with this program. So it’s going to fly.

[sfetty (Dave Fetty, CMI)]

@cevans

This will be most interesting. It looks like my association is going to begin competing with me for my clientele.

It will be fun to see how the program navigates all of the differences and idiosyncrasies of the various state laws regarding home inspections. Like California’s rule that the inspection report belongs to the house and is available as public record. It will be interesting to see how TREC would view having the inspector’s client be an entity that is not a party to the real estate transaction nor an agent, nor a consumer. Not to mention the outside pre-existing relationship that exists between the “client” (InterNACHI) and the inspector, where much-unrelated monies and benefits are exchanged separately from the consumer (read: conflict of interest). Looks like unlimited iterations of liability (one for each buyer of said report) for only a single inspection fee to the inspector without the benefit of the relationship building that typically occurs between the inspector and the consumer during the course of the inspection (the buyback guarantee means nothing to TREC when they have a consumer complaint). Kind of flies in the face of the claim that an inspection is a “snapshot in time” and that old reports should not be relied upon…

So if a particular inspector’s rates are twice the average, because the consumer is willing to pay it, will InterNACHI simply pay it? Either InterNACHI is going to control the fee structure under this arrangement (i.e., depress fees) or every inspector is going to charge super-premium fees under this structure because they don’t have to convince the consumer that they are worth it. Any time the decision to purchase a service is divorced from the cost of the service, in the absence of some external control, the cost of the service will skyrocket because the purchaser is using someone else’s money. The person ordering the inspection won’t care about the fee because it’s “FREE”.

I’m not going to lose any sleep over this one.

Me either. All the other points as well are items which should be addressed

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

I didn’t see a numbered question in there or even a question mark, so I won’t reply.

[sfetty (Dave Fetty, CMI)]

Looks like a big fat NOOOO!

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

I don’t know how to reply to someone thinking out loud. If you have a specific question, ask it and I’ll answer. If more than one, number them please.

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

#1 question not asked or answered. How much will NACHI pay???

#2 would this make us 1099 workers?

[sfetty (Dave Fetty, CMI)]

Any advances on the health insurance?

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

@mlarson

#1 question not asked or answered. How much will NACHI pay???

#2 would this make us 1099 workers?

Nick?

[cevans (Chuck Evans, CMI)]

Not quite, but good try.

What do you have to put in Nick’s pricer to get that fee?

[gfricke (Glenn Fricke)]

Nick I have a valid question on this, suppose I have an agent that contacts us directly to conduct one of these. Do I have to steer them towards InterNACHI where a name will be drawn out of a pool, or can we market these ourselves standalone? IE can we market this as a free prelisting program and to contact us, or do they have to always contact InterNACHI?

[jdittmar2 (James Dittmar)]

@gfricke

Nick I have a valid question on this, suppose I have an agent that contacts us directly to conduct one of these. Do I have to steer them towards InterNACHI where a name will be drawn out of a pool, or can we market these ourselves standalone? IE can we market this as a free prelisting program and to contact us, or do they have to always contact InterNACHI?

I was wondering the same. Would we set up the inspection ourselves and then submit the information to InterNACHI kind of like we do with the buy back program or would the agent set it up through InterNACHI with some kind reference field for which inspector they are using who would then get reimbursed?

[rthoroman (Ray Thoroman)]

I will keep my eye on this thread. Way too many questions to number at this time. Just some advice for the newer inspectors, don’t bank on this program. Stay tuned.

There are so many hurdles and variables in order for this program to have some teeth.

But hey Nick, keep that mind turning. If anyone has the resources to launch such a program and make it sustainable, it’d be you.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

#1 question not asked or answered. How much will NACHI pay???

InterNACHI® - International Association of Certified Home Inspectors plus an additional $3/download.

#2 would this make us 1099 workers?

Only if you wanted the money to go to you personally instead of your inspection company. I presume your clients pay your inspection company not you.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

Do I have to steer them towards InterNACHI where a name will be drawn out of a pool, or can we market these ourselves standalone? IE can we market this as a free prelisting program and to contact us, or do they have to always contact InterNACHI?

You’re in the town with your agents and you know your schedule. We aren’t and we don’t.

[belliott (Bob Elliott, 450.0002662)]

Following …Following…

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

Would we set up the inspection ourselves and then submit the information to InterNACHI kind of like we do with the buy back program or would the agent set it up through InterNACHI with some kind reference field for which inspector they are using who would then get reimbursed?

InterNACHI is only going to pay for reports uploaded to our system and linked to from the agents website. We need that so the agents can get rich from the program. That’s how it’s going to fly… by allowing the agents to get rich from it.

[gspry (Geff Spry, CMI)]

1. Who answers all the questions from the multiple clients once 20 or so people have the report in hand?

2. If the inspector is expected to answer all the questions, do we get compensated?

3. How soon would payment be received for the initial inspection?

4. Would the realtor get to pick their favorite inspector (Internachi member) or do they have to roll the dice?

5. Would the seller have the option of not reading the report for disclosure (or lack of) purposes?

6. Would any inspection insurance company have issue with this?

7. Would the buy back go hand in hand with this?

8 ) Would Porch or any other entity receive any client information (Whether they got the house or not) in order to contact the client for any purpose?

[mlarson (Michael Larson, WI Lic. # 1672-106)]

Using Nick’s price calculator I would be charging more than $100 higher than competitors in the area.

Fellas, run your own calc. and see what you get.

[gromicko (Nick Gromicko, CMI)]

1. Who answers all the questions from the multiple clients once 20 or so people have the report in hand?

I’m assuming the inspector is going to be thrilled to have a potential home buyer in his/her own market call. So the inspector. At least 19 of those 20 aren’t going to buy the home and so they’re going to need a home inspector soon.

2. If the inspector is expected to answer all the questions, do we get compensated?

No. We’re already giving you the customer. Why would we compensate you for giving you work?

3. How soon would payment be received for the initial inspection?

Like our Owens Corning program, inspectors get paid by direct deposit immediately. Here is a message board thread showing how we got the speed down from about a month to less than a week: Have you all been receiving your check$ from our Owens Corning project promptly? - Roofing Inspections - InterNACHI®️ Forum

4. Would the realtor get to pick their favorite inspector (Internachi member) or do they have to roll the dice?

Agents have a lot of say in referring inspectors to their sellers.

5. Would the seller have the option of not reading the report for disclosure (or lack of) purposes?

Any seller with that mindset likely won’t agree to have his home pre inspected. Not a scenario that would ever come up. And hiding from problems until they are detected just before closing is a way to wreck a sale.

6. Would any inspection insurance company have issue with this?

Probably not but I sure wish all the insurance companies would prohibit it because InterNACHI’s insurance company would then get all their inspectors: www.nachi.org/insurance . I can only hope they all have a problem with it.

7. Would the buy back go hand in hand with this?

Yes. For free: www.nachi.org/buy

8 ) Would Porch or any other entity receive any client information (Whether they got the house or not) in order to contact the client for any purpose?

InterNACHI is the client. I can’t think of any way Porch could help but if I do, I’ll post here about it. I’m open to suggestions.