There is quite a bit of new home construction in my neighborhood and as I have been going through the course work I have become aware of some building practices that are being skimped on. There are four houses and one that had the shingles installed within the last few days. None of these homes have rake or eve drip edges installed. I went as far today to contact the city code inspector to ask if something changed as per the requirement for drip edges. Still the same since November 1, 2012
Is this a common skimp that anyone else has seen during your past inspections? These homes are located in Chattanooga, Tn
A drip edge flashing is required in some form.
I’m in new subdivisions every day in Northern Colorado making deliveries during my full time job, and YES this sort of thing is skimped all the time. Even the ice and water shield gets left out. The faster roofers can get it done, the more money they make. It happens with everything else too…
I agree with you on that. I have worked on many a home new and old and only had the pleasure of working with a couple of smaller businesses that were on top of the right way to build. I have that mentality and it just disgust me how someone would not install a couple hundred bucks of drip edge or something else. Thanks for responding .
They don’t care because nobody forces them to install it and usually it takes a long time for any water damage to appear. The Asphalt Roofing Manufacturers Association ( ARMA ) called for it for over 20 years.
In my neighborhood they have no gap between the drip edge and the fascia. Half of the homes already have deterioration of the fascia.
I didn’t know what a drip edge was prior to starting my InterNachi journey. Nice to know how its supposed to be installed. I enjoy learning new information about proper installations.
Yes, In my area, I find many roof coverings installed without drip-edge flashing. I call it out as a material defect and let my client decide if they want to have it corrected or not.
Does that not imply there is something wrong with the “material”?
Not necessarily. " 1.2. A material defect is a specific issue with a system or component of a residential property that may have a significant, adverse impact on the value of the property, or that poses an unreasonable risk to people.
So you believe this definition also refers to and includes “missing systems and their components”? and that makes sense to you?
I believe that a lack of proper drip-edge flashing at the eaves or rakes can lead to premature deterioration of the roof sheathing. Subsequently having an adverse impact on the value of the dwelling.
I understand and agree, however, referring to a missing drip edge and or any other component as “material defect” is very confusing because “there is no material”, it is missing, “it” is not defective – “it” does not exist. It needs to be present in order to be defective. The roof, as a system, may be defective due to a “missing” drip edge but not the drip edge itself. Anyway… I just wanted to see how you understood the definition of “material defect”. Copying it from nachi didn’t help clear the confusion.
DEFECT
noun
1.a shortcoming, fault, or imperfection:a defect in an argument; a defect in a machine.
- lack or want, especially of something essential to perfection or completeness;
deficiency:a defect in hearing.
Can’t forget that whatever product is used has to conform to the Installation instructions to remain in compliance.
R106.1.2 Manufacturer’s Installation Instructions
Manufacturer’s installation instructions, as required by this code, shall be available on the job site at the time of inspection.
Don’t they supply the instructions in PDF format, nowadays?
I wonder if the roofers bring a copy with them before they start the roof? LOL
I have done three inspection in huntville, Al on three new homes that done have the standard drip edge. The old method was to install a small strip of wood at the top and under the shingle. When the water travels over the shingle the small board allows the water to fall off the drip edge and NOT down the fascia board. The more modern method is metal flashing installed under the shingle and next to the fascia board. Again water will drip off the flashing and NOT down the surface of the fascia board. BUT NOW, MY FINDINGS. The three new houses did not have drip flashing, BUT they bent the last inch or so of the aluminum fascia covering at an angle at the top and touching the underside of the shingle. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD WORK FINE, BUT IS IT PROVEN? Done anyone know if this is an excepted application? I tried to describe in words, the best I could
What is a Material defect
A material defect is anything about the property that could affect the decision of whether to purchase the house or affect the offer price. It could be something that happened in the home, something that is coming to the area or anything that may affect the property value.