NYS: Still No Application for Home Inspectors!

Originally Posted By: bmerrell
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I hope the application comes out soon for Home Inspectors. It would be a very serious situation if Home Inspectors were unable to make a living if there are items in the application which a seasoned Home Inspector must comply with, with added education, experience etc. It is everyone’s hope that the applications will be forthcoming shortly. Also the schools have to be granted approval for their courses. Until there is a true approval, no one can say for sure what will and won’t be accepted. Nick wrote in his article that NYS said there may be a grace period after 12-31-05. I hope so, but no one from NYS will give me a written letter confirming or denying this. They don’t even have a list at present for those who wish to receive an application when it becomes available…originally June, now Sept, 2005. Let’s see if the application is available 09-05. I know the state is still working on it, as of yesterday it was not in print!


As an educator, I want to make sure that all courses offered are approved. Until then, we will only offer an Introductory course for those who are considering the field. Other schools may go ahead and proceed with one hundred plus hours of education. What if the education is not approved. Our school will take a conservative approach and wait until the approval process for education becomes a reality. That is why we are only offering an initial Introductory course.

Bill Merrell, Ph.D- Fellow NACHI Member


Originally Posted By: tbrady
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Bill-


I was at a NACHI chapter meeting in May of this year in Rochester NY and spoke with Assemblyman Johns (Sponser person of the bill) - she stated that in reality NYS may not be ready in 2006 and may take until 2007 to get their “stuff” together for full enactment - I guess We will all have to be a bit more patient - mean while back to work.


- Tom Brady - Brady Home Inspection - Cortland, NY ![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif)


Originally Posted By: bmerrell
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Thank you for your input- It’s a wait and see and now that it’s Sept. we know the applications are not ready as scheduled-


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Bill -


I know that there have been many fine home inspectors, some very visible and some behind the scenes, who have been working for quite a few years to develop the legislation that has yet to be implemented.

The bill that has already been signed into law has been enthusiastically received by some and simply accepted by others. The infrastructure in implementing it is in the process of development. No strong movement to oppose it has been made a matter for record until your posts.

Since you are not a home inspector and are relatively new on the scene, what qualifies you to involve yourself in this process (aside from those issues that involve your educational providing business)?


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bmerrell wrote:
Who says I am not a Home Inspector- has anyone ever taken the time to ask me my entire qualifications, as compared to my education resume.


Paul Sabados did. You replied, as follows:

bmerrell wrote:
Am I a Full-Time Active Home Inspector as of this moment- NO


Has there been a change since you stated this on 8/28/05? If there has, I apologize.


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Originally Posted By: jbushart
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bmerrell wrote:
If my motives were that of a school why am I advocating NOT needing additional education.


I did not venture a guess as to your motives, sir, but since you have brought this up...how can one who is advocating NOT needing additional education create and lead a NACHI chapter that is exclusively dealing with education?


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bmerrell wrote:
Full Time Active Inspector is still "NO" due to my disability- that cannot be disputed- I own the firm, NY Inspection Services that actively inspects homes. I review all work with my firm name attached to it.

Where is this going?- read the entire section and my entire reply and you will see that I was very active at one point.

Are you suggesting that if due to a disability, someone has to curtail their activities, that negates anything done in the past?

Suggesting that I am not an Inspector, or was not, or am not is simply not complete. It is a sound bite.


Many years ago, I was a teenager. I am no longer physically able to be one. Can I still call myself a teenager? ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


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I agree that no good deed goes unpunished


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Bill,


I would like to go back to the question I asked regarding the point that you made a couple of posts ago, if I may.

How can one who is advocating NOT needing additional education create and lead a NACHI chapter that is exclusively dealing with education? It seems to be contradictory, as your claims to be working in tandem with another chapter in your front yard is redundant.


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Originally Posted By: jbushart
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bmerrell wrote:
Are you implying that NACHI discriminates against those with a disability and NACHI members with a disability are not to be treated equal? Is that your personal opinion. We are not talking about growing old, we are talking about a life altering disability which I am managing quite well- thanks for asking. I hope that you never experience such a situation and then have someone treat you in this fashion.

Again, no good deed goes unpunished. It wasn't long ago that a disability was called a handicap, simply because persons who were injured and could no longer support themselves begged to support themselves and their families. They had their cap in their hands and thus hand in cappers came to existence. Sounds very demeaning. I hope this is not your intent.

I am glad you don't work for a state agency that works with individuals with a disability. I am not a teenager, nor crippled, but disabled- YES


Please don't attempt to turn this debate into a pity party. Disabilities are not foreign to me or my family and I despise people who attempt to play them to their advantage in issues that do not relate to them. I hope you are not trying to do that, yourself.

When asked if you were a full time home inspector, you said "No". Now, you are claiming that no one ever asked you and that I am exploiting your handicap to say that you are not.

To agree with your statement that you are not a full time home inspector has nothing to do with anyone's physical abilities or disabilities. You either are or you are not. What you may have been at one time is not an issue.


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Originally Posted By: jbushart
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bmerrell wrote:

So reviews and ownership of an active firm does not count- I assume that is your opinion-


I personally know a woman who owns a home inspection company that has six inspectors working for her. She reviews their reports as well. She is a real estate broker. I suppose, however, you would call her a home inspector...?


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Stick to the thread- should we have an extension of the laws in NY State or not- that’s where it all started.


Originally Posted By: jbushart
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Never mind, Mr. Merrell. You have already provided me with a clear understanding of what I wanted to know. Thank you, and best of luck.



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Originally Posted By: bmerrell
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The original author of the bill recommended it. Read the posts.This line of questioning is simply not on topic- No further comments will be made about my opinion that an extension would benefit every NY NACHI Inspector in the State- NJ finally had to change their laws- check it out!


Originally Posted By: bmerrell
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Thank you for the lively discussion-


Originally Posted By: jbushart
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bmerrell wrote:
I own the firm, New York Inspection Services,


Mr. Merrell,

The New York Department of State has only one business by this name, and it is owned by someone else.

Quote:
NYS Department of State
Division of Corporations
Entity Information




Selected Entity Name: NEW YORK INSPECTION SERVICES CORP.

Selected Entity Status Information Current Entity Name: NEW YORK INSPECTION SERVICES CORP.
Initial DOS Filing Date: DECEMBER 24, 2003
County: NASSAU
Jurisdiction: NEW YORK
Entity Type: DOMESTIC BUSINESS CORPORATION
Current Entity Status: ACTIVE

Selected Entity Address Information DOS Process (Address to which DOS will mail process if accepted on behalf of the entity)
NEW YORK INSPECTION SERVICES CORP.
GREG BALA
2287 LANCASTER AVE
BALDWIN, NEW YORK, 11510


http://appsext5.dos.state.ny.us/corp_public/CORPSEARCH.ENTITY_INFORMATION?p_nameid=2994769&p_corpid=2992568&p_entity_name=%6E%65%77%20%79%6F%72%6B%20%69%6E%73%70%65%63%74%69%6F%6E%20%73%65%72%76%69%63%65%73&p_name_ENGINE=%41&amp DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;p_search_ENGINE=%42%45%47%49%4E%53&amp DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;p_srch_results_page=0



Additionally, sir, the New York Department of State had no record of any corporation or business entity registered with them by the names of "Appraisal Education Network School", "Merrell Institute", or "Merrell Industries USA". Would you be kind enough to expound upon these entities and how they may be checked?

Also, the school in which you received your doctorate, known as "Western University" has been difficult to identify. The closest I was able to come to is a school that was Western University but is now known as Kennedy-Western University that was founded in 1984. They provide phDs to their students in "as little as 12 months with no class room time". Perhaps you can help with that, too.

http://kw.edu/default.asp

Thanks.


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