OAHI / CAHPI Ontario AGM

I was in business for five years before I found InterNACHI. Because of the great resourses here I increased my business. I approched the other assoc ten years ago and they demanded a whole lot of money and refused to look at or consider my previous education and experience. In fact they told me that I did not know how to do inspections unless they trained me. After 28 years of being an inspector! Give me a break! They just wanted my money. Well they are not going to get it. Not one GD cent.

If they did not own it how could they shut if down? -X

The current leaders of CAHPI National incorrectly thought that CAHPI owned the program. Had they consulted someone who was around years ago when the program was developed, they would have learned that actual ownership had to be retained by certain government agencies, and CAHPI was merely given the right to administer the program.

So in actuality, all CAHPI could do was try to shut down the parts of the program they were administering. However,they could not cancel the program because it was not theirs to cancel, so all they were able to do was needlessly inconvenience hundreds of people.

The real ‘owners’ of the program quickly authorized the NHICC to revive and and administer the program, and that’s where we are today. The program now has a totally independent (no association has influence or control) certifying body (NHICC) administering it and making it equally available to all Canadian Home Insepctors.

Bill Mullen

Come on, Vern…At the time, they were the only group with an agreement to run a program that tested and certified for the NCH!!

Claude you posted the following on another thread last July.
Sure “significant restructuring” is similar to “right sizing the government”. It’s all whitewash, and warm and fuzzy feel good terms - to make the National Certificate Holder feel irrelevant.

CAHPI feels they own it! So they can use it and pass it on to the provincial CAHPI chapters, to protect the RHI designation.

CAHPI may own it, but it also was under specific terms of agreement. It’s not dead yet!
Sure “significant restructuring” is similar to “right sizing the government”. It’s all whitewash, and warm and fuzzy feel good terms - to make the National Certificate Holder feel irrelevant.

CAHPI may own it, but it also was under specific terms of agreement. It’s not dead yet!

Claude the above statements in blue seem to be in conflict. Care to explain?
Who does own it?

"I approched the other assoc ten years ago and they demanded a whole lot of money and refused to look at or consider my previous education and experience."

For the record Vern, what was that other organization?

It was called cahi at that time.
I prefer not to use their name as that gives them free advertizing.

I would think alot more newbies succeed because of NACHI than fail, I think also that because there is not a huge startup cost and generally it’s a part time business to start, home inspection is not taken seriously by some and destined to fail if not treated as a real business. I also believe that if you give up in as soon as 2 years, you didn’t listen, it takes 3-5 to really get established and how many seasoned inspectors have said that?

Words worth repeating. Thanks Chuck.

NACHI was the first H.I. organization I joined and the assistance I received was invaluable. I am still and will remain a member of this association. We at the ALLIANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS are attempting to give our members the same kind of quality service. ( now all we need is 9000 members !!:smiley: :smiley: )

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http://www.theachi.org

Yes Bill Mullen noted it exactly in his post today.

"The current leaders of CAHPI National incorrectly thought that CAHPI owned the program. Had they consulted someone who was around years ago when the program was developed, they would have learned that actual ownership had to be retained by certain government agencies, and CAHPI was merely given the right to administer the program.

So in actuality, all CAHPI could do was try to shut down the parts of the program they were administering. However,they could not cancel the program because it was not theirs to cancel, so all they were able to do was needlessly inconvenience hundreds of people.

The real ‘owners’ of the program quickly authorized the NHICC to revive and and administer the program, and that’s where we are today. The program now has a totally independent (no association has influence or control) certifying body (NHICC) administering it and making it equally available to all Canadian Home Insepctors."

Claude, please don’t put answers in such plain English…it’s too easy to understandand; there’s no mystery left to comment on or question such as THE BIG THREE! At this rate, these boards will be unexciting and business will actualy move forward…PITY!

Vern , If all the others were like Nachi we would not be having this kind of post or conversation !

NACHI,
Great place ,Number one all the way… Roy

We at NACHI are family!
Thank you NACHI!
Beauchemin,Marc-Andre.
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A MARI USQUE AD MARE (Elvis gratton would say Think big!)

Just for Brian;

These are pretty simple questions Brian. To date ( and they have been asked for five years) there has been no FACTUAL answer to any of them. But we have all been labeled ‘incompetent’, ‘dangerous’, ‘cowboys’ and worse based on assumptions, guesses and quite probably Ouija board readings. So here they are again - "THE BIG THREE’.

HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED / YEAR?
HOW MANY OF THOSE INSPECTIONS LEAD TO MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINT?

Maybe Santa will bring the answers, because nobody else seems to have them.

George:

You’re spending too much time alone!! You keep repeating the same three sentences over …and …over and …over and …over and …over …and over …and over…Be careful!! Christmas is too close…you don’t want to miss it!

BTW, I notice that CPBC didn’t need to ask, nor answer, those questions before they moved forward quickly and regulated HI’s in BC. Do you think other governments will want to know the answers to the BIG THREE or will they listen to you and not bother regulating HI’s?

George,you keep asking the same question,over and over,perhaps you know the answer and would be willing to share this info,I am guessing you do not know,so why would others know,stop asking

What is the matter Harry? Do you now realize too, that we have all been defamed by your “industry leaders” without proof? If you find the questions a little difficult to deal with and that they cut a little too close to home then maybe you can prevail upon your friends to answer them.

Ignoring the fact that “industry leaders” have made claims and accusations that defame us all may make you feel better Harry, but it doesn’t address the fact that the entire national programme is based on a lie.

I don’t have the answers to the questions and the point is that NOBODY else does either. But then I am not trying to foist off this programme as defacto licensing either. So Harry, ask them these same questions yourself. But don’t accept any ‘facts’ that are preceded by “I think…” or “would…” or “might …” because what follows those words are OPINIONS or GUESSES or CONJECTURE. And Canadian Inspectors deserve better.

HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED / YEAR?
HOW MANY OF THESE INSPECTIONS GENERATE MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINTS?

Without these answers and the ability to define a failure rate for Canadian Inspectors all the damaging claims and all the programmes are nothing but a sham.

"You’re spending too much time alone!! You keep repeating the same three sentences over …and …over and …over and …over and …over …and over …and over"


And we keep getting the same answers; “silence” or “avoidance”.
Not good enough. Canadian Inspectors deserve better.

HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED / YEAR?

HOW MANY OF THESE INSPECTIONS GENERATE MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINTS?


Without these answers and the ability to define a failure rate for Canadian Inspectors all the damaging claims and all the programmes are nothing but a sham.

See… you’re doing it again…obsessive-compulsive?

Obsessive -Compulsive ,
Now Brian great use of words .They fit you all the way .
You run around the Various sites looking for a post to show just what sort of a person you are.
Here is somthing that is done for all NACHI members that works well thank you .

http://www.nachi.org/inspection-leads.htm

With that in mind, here is some information on our top 100 most recent web site leads.
Of the 799018 total leads since November 8th 2009 (1.38 leads/minute average), these are the most recent 100 (updated every minute):
Date/TimeMember WebsiteLead From12/15/2010 3:12pm ESThttp://www.royshomeinspection.com/http://www.inspectorseek.com/result…12/15/2010 3:12pm ESThttp://www.effulgentinspection.comunavailable12/15/2010 3:11pm ESThttp://www.npibrea.comhttp://www.inspectorseek.com/result…12/15/2010 3:11pm ESThttp://www.klcarpentry.comhttp://www.inspectorseek.com/result…12/15/2010 3:09pm ESThttp://www.sanfernandovalleyhomeins…http://www.inspectorseek.com/result…12/15/2010 3:09pm ESThttp://www.mccarterhomeinspection