Why didn’t you just say that at the 1st page of our discussion? I tried to warn you. I don’t have any more questions, just the answers to post #203](... They Used the "L" Word! - InterNACHI®️ Forum) will quench my curiosity.
Go back and read the thread carefully. I believe I answered your questions with the possible exception of #1(and only possibly) because it was so non specific and came across as a tactic rather than a question of serious intent to discover something.
There is a lot of evidence to the events, people, places the reliability of the biblical record of which you have indicated you have on ly read small portions.
BTW-What have you read and why?
And you never answered why your beliefs are right and all other religions are wrong.
Kevin,
How many books on Atheism have you read?
Where is the empirical evidence for Atheism?
Another question answered with a question, but I’ll go with it. I’m not sure how many books there are on Atheism, I’m not an Atheist.
Agnostic?
Sorry Michael, it’s your turn.
Mike in your world of stupid questions, that one hits a new high/low!!
Your milage WILL vary
Gerry
Healthy skepticism is just fine.
There have been many before you that ridiculed what they don’t want to believe and there will be many after you.
A true learner would seek to examine the available evidence and come to some conclusions and either rejecting what the bible teaches or accepting it for what it is and during to learn even more.
When the Saul was on the road to Damascus he wasn’t looking for a relationship with Jesus because he already thought he was in good standing with God as a Pharisee and persecutor of the early believers in Christ.
But God intervened and the encounter changed his life and even his name.
God brought Saul into a believing faith. As Paul, he went on to write much of the New Testament and spent the rest of his life expanding the reach of the Gospel. He didn’t shy away from unbelievers but engaged them on a regular basis. Did all believe? No, but by God’s grace many did and the church expanded and went on to change the world.
The empirical evidence you seek will not bring you to faith by itself for that is a work of the God and it is He that must draw you to Him. Perhaps he already has. If that is the case you should be doing all you can to strengthen your relationship with Him.
Does that mean there isn’t any?
So in short, there is no empirical evidence and you aren’t going to answer any other questions. At least admit it and stop with the nonsense.
In your words, “are you asking to prove a negative?”
Somehow I am not surprised by by your answer.
I hope you had fun.:roll:
Nonsense to the unregenerate Yes.
**Christ the Wisdom and Power of God **
1 Corinthians 1:18-31
18 For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written,
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.”
20 Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26 For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards, [1]](ESV.org) not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; 28 God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, 29 so that no human being [2]](ESV.org) might boast in the presence of God. 30 And because of him [3]](ESV.org) you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, 31 so that, as it is written, “Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord.”
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Do those passages give you a warm fuzzy? I certainly hope these don’t:
Any of the people of Israel, or of the aliens who reside in Israel, who give any of their offspring to Molech shall be put to death; the people of the land shall stone them to death. I myself will set my face against them, and will cut them off from the people, because they have given of their offspring to Molech, defiling my sanctuary and profaning my holy name. And if the people of the land should ever close their eyes to them, when they give of their offspring to Molech, and do not put them to death, I myself will set my face against them and against their family, and will cut them off from among their people, them and all who follow them in prostituting themselves to Molech.
If any turn to mediums and wizards, prostituting themselves to them, I will set my face against them, and will cut them off from the people. Consecrate yourselves therefore, and be holy; for I am the Lord your God. Keep my statutes, and observe them; I am the Lord; I sanctify you. All who curse father or mother shall be put to death; having cursed father or mother, their blood is upon them.
If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbour, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death. The man who lies with his father’s wife has uncovered his father’s nakedness; both of them shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them. If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. [Leviticus, chapter 20]
Why should that be of concern to you?
It’s only a story, right?
The concern is that billions of people follow these stories as the truth and the way life should be lived. VERY CONCERNING!
Yes, VERY CONCERNING:
When you buy a male Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years, but in the seventh he shall go out a free person, without debt. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s and he shall go out alone. But if the slave declares, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out a free person’, then his master shall bring him before God. He shall be brought to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him for life.
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. If she does not please her master, who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed; he shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt unfairly with her. If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife. And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out without debt, without payment of money.
Whoever strikes a person mortally shall be put to death. If it was not premeditated, but came about by an act of God, then I will appoint for you a place to which the killer may flee. But if someone wilfully attacks and kills another by treachery, you shall take the killer from my altar for execution.
SO, SO CONCERNING:
I desire, then, that in every place the men should pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or argument; also that the women should dress themselves modestly and decently in suitable clothing, not with their hair braided, or with gold, pearls, or expensive clothes, but with good works, as is proper for women who profess reverence for God. Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty. [1 Timothy, chapter 2]
And you believe this nonsense as TRUTH. Not maybe the truth, not parts may be true, but, I live my live by the Bible true!