Parallel Inspections??

[tallen (Ted Allen)]

@dduffy

I will call Lisa Lawhorn in the morning at the BTR.

I have asked her numerous questions about numerous items related to my Technical Inspections and she always replies quickly and courteously, with the exact answer…

:p:D:D:D

[tallen (Ted Allen)]

@dduffy

I will call Lisa Lawhorn in the morning at the BTR.

I have asked her numerous questions about numerous items related to my Technical Inspections and she always replies quickly and courteously, with the exact answer…

:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[tallen (Ted Allen)]

[quote=dduffy]
I will call Lisa Lawhorn in the morning at the BTR.

Lisa is my sister. Tell her I said Hello.

[dduffy (Dale Duffy)]

[quote=tallen]

@dduffy

I will call Lisa Lawhorn in the morning at the BTR.

Lisa is my sister. Tell her I said Hello.

Will do, Todd…she always replies to my questions on the phone and backs up what she says in a email to me.

I went through hell and high water trying to get an answer about me bringing my licensed contractors to Technical Home Inspections.

Very nice lady…

[jbrown4 (Joe Brown)]

Doug
There are many reasons why a certified home inspector in AZ would need to seek some compensation for the parallel inspections you need for your certification. Whomever led you to believe that you could obtain the needed number of parallel inspections in a short time without compensating the trainer was mistaken. I hope it was not one of our local schools. Michael is correct in the level of responsibility a certified inspector assumes for the field training provided. Todd is also correct in the fact that those responsibilities have always been enforceable. Michael’s insinuation that AZ home inspectors do not stay informed about changes made by our governing agency is not true. I also do not believe that there would be new, non-published standards, that are currently enforceable by the BOTR. I have heard these " I know something you don’t know" statements before from other AZ inspectors.

Joe B

[tneumann]

Todd this is why I quit posting here

5 posts total…3 in this thread…

[tallen (Ted Allen)]

NONE seems to be winning.

[tallen (Ted Allen)]

[quote=tallen]

@dduffy

I will call Lisa Lawhorn in the morning at the BTR.

Lisa is my sister. Tell her I said Hello.

I don’t have a REAL sister.

Tell her I said hello anyway.

[dduffy (Dale Duffy)]

Would you rather I tell her Todd Allen might be supervising parallel inspections and doesn’t know the hidden laws (secret) of the state…

New laws which are in affect but not published…:shock: :shock: :shock:

I’m going to ask her to email the new secret laws…

Unreal…

[bkelly2 (Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)]

@mcraig

Guys I have some sad news for you on the inspections. the reason for not having anyone want to take you out is because if you kept up with the BTR requirements (that were just set up at the first of the year) Any certified home inspector that takes you out has to be responsable for your report you turn in and if there are things that are not up to par the certified home inspector is held responsable and can have disciplinary action delt to them. along with you not getting your certification in a timely way.
Come on guys keep up with the rules here in AZ. this all came out in the last BTR news paper that is mailed out. If you are going to be in this business keep up with the rules.
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The BTR paper is mailed out to certified inspectors.

[bkelly2 (Brian Kelly, AZ Cert. # 60234)]

@dnoyce

I don’t know the requirements of other states, but in Arizona licensing/certification requires along with all the other pre-requisites, that a “new inspector” (Not from the Home Inspection community) log 30 ‘parallel’ inspections, signed off by a certified, licensed (in AZ) Inspector.

With 42 years in the construction industry, aceing my classroom work, and the state required NHIE, after 4 months I cannot find a single inspection firm or individual in my area (where there are 139 licensed home inspectors) willing to proivide this opportunity. Those that will are actually charging $50-$175 per inspection for this ‘service’. (A great business! Now I know how to make money when I finally get my certification!)

The State of AZ will not permit me to advertise, work, or even call myself a Home Inspector, until this is completed. I was led to believe that “you can knock off 30 parallels in 2-3 weeks!” In reality, I can’t even find ONE after 4 months!!

If there are any Arizona inspectors in the Tucson area willing to do parallels with me, please contact me at dnoyce@az.nachi.org or call me at (520) 820-6451. I have over 40 years as a construction inspector in all areas, specializing in electrical and mechanical systems. I have worked for local, state and federal governments in this role. I am NOT green!!

Thanks for listening! (Will work for food!!):roll:

Doug I am just finishing up with an apprentice inspector. I charge him $50.00 a pop to tag along. I am responsible for him at the inspection, I am responsible for any damage that he may cause, my business bears the brunt of any off the cuff remarks he may make during the inspection, I have to review his reports and sign them of.
And I had better make sure that the report he turns in to the BTR meets their standards.

(This was not easy for me the first time as I am not sure they understood English in the wriiten form;) )

On another note are they really changing the Standards? I just bought a box of 400:( of the current Standards.

[mcraig (Mikel J. Craig)]

Gentlemen see the attachment taken from the BTR website this morning it shows the new wording on such things as identifying objects (Such as Pipes and Columns) I f you read through it you will see subtle changes that ask for key items and the big change is the placement of the words Type and condition that were added if you look at the previous version you will see they didn’t have these words in there it was more general.

Also attached you will find the new Supervisor sign off sheet also loaded from the BTR this morning It is now a real Legal document, it is now your job to make sure that the person is really trained or you pay for there failure.

Also NACHI just updated there sight and that is why I don’t show up for all of my past posts for the past 3 years.
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[tallen (Ted Allen)]

As far as the report evaluation checklist goes, the one you posted is **IDENTICAL **to the copy that I have had for over a year.

The parallel check off sheet looks just like the one my supervising inspector filled out for me.
The revision date on this form is 2003.

[dduffy (Dale Duffy)]

The rules have not changed, nor have the standards of practice, which every report must meet the Minimum.

What part of this do you consider New?..the bold underlines.

They have been there for some time now…Oct. 1st. 05

When the BTR replies to my email about the sneak preview of the hidden changes I will post their reply.

[tneumann]

pssst…the red none and the gold none are now tied…dale…not responding to my pm’s anymore

[dduffy (Dale Duffy)]

@dduffy

The rules have not changed, nor have the standards of practice, which every report must meet the Minimum.

What part of this do you consider New?..the bold underlines.

They have been there for some time now…Oct. 1st. 05

When the BTR replies to my email about the sneak preview of the hidden changes I will post their reply.

This is from Susan Skrzycki from the BTR.

Hello Dale,

The Board’s Rules have not changed. We have been updating our report review checklist, which is a helpful tool in interpreting the Standards, which also have not changed.

[rpaul (Randall Paul)]

I am not from Az. and probably a good thing because I don’t like the heat! Anyways, I was reading all these post. If someone is going to Supervise another inspector, they should be responsible for that inspector of doing everything the right way. If I was looking for someone to help me get certified I personally would like them to make sure I did it right.
If you are a supervisor you should be responsible for the one under you. The teacher is over the student.

Rick

[dduffy (Dale Duffy)]

@rpaul

I am not from Az. and probably a good thing because I don’t like the heat!

**HEAT?..it’s 73 degrees outside right now…I’m freezing… **

[rpaul (Randall Paul)]

I really enjoy the 4 seasons here in NYS. This year has been exceptionally mild. So far only 3 weekends of snow. It was 50 degrees today. That is a warm spell for us. NYC had 28 inches of snow last weekend, we had none.

Rick

[dduffy (Dale Duffy)]

@rpaul

I really enjoy the 4 seasons here in NYS.

I like the four seasons here…Perfect, Perfect, Perfect, and Hot…