So tell us about the “program” you plan to take “someplace else” if NACHI and its members don’t want it, John. What “changes” will have to be made that the “arrogant” ESOP Committee is standing in the way of?
Sorry, you’re not in the loop.
Hey John;
From a practical point of view however, none of this stuff matters! No buyers and certainly not most agents have even heard of any of the major inspection organizations much less Mr. Rowan. To think that anything Mr. Rowan says or does will have any impact on my business or yours is absurd.
Same day, different inspection!
Thank goodness. Any loop that involves you seems to be around one’s own neck with a trap door beneath.
Good luck with your secret plan.
Thanks…
The designation of CMI does help my clients understand, by those three words,
that they are selecting an inspector that is superior to my competition.
I had many tell me that is was indeed the deciding factor.
So, in that regard, the CMI designation could help many an inspector
if it could be promoted as a worthy goal for them to attain to.
If some see no need for it, then I have no problem with them.
I have no desire to debate the merits of CMI… but I would like
to see our “president” look more honorable than a used car salesman.
To Jim and John,
I love watching you guys. You make me feel like I’m at home
with my real family. I would pay money to watch you two
meet in person.
ahhhhh… the feeling that only the NACHI family can give you… :mrgreen:
We could end the war on terror in fifteen minutes if John would only give his full support to Osama bin Laden.
John B,
Problem is that none of the ESOP committee is in the loop. If you are promoting something with regard to insurance, and it involves changing the NACHI SOP in any manner, and you wish to discuss it, you know my e-mail and telephone number.
ESOP is neither arrogant or obstructionist. YOUR problem is a personal one, as you cannot, do not, and never will have any authority over it.
My suggestion is for you to disclose what you are working on. You and Keith Swift were probably talking and decided that you can collectively save this wretched org from its own SOP. What a load of crap. Keith is so far out of it with regard to what ours and other SOPs state, and the fact that that same verbiage is incorporated into law in many states, that it makes me wonder if either of you are qualified to review anything with regard to any standard of practice.
For you to state, as ED of this org, that if we werent interested in what you were working on that you’d take it to another org is, in my opinion, EXACTLY why yout tenure as ED should be questioned.
And, if you believe that ASHI will change its SOP for you, you’re mistaken. Maybe you’ll have a better chance with NAHI. Oh, yeah… they’re trying to get ASTM to water down the industry in its entirety.
So, please tell us which changes your carrier wants made to our SOP. Tell us who the carrier is, and also explain if those changes will affect any insurability our members may have with competing carriers.
Start there.
The proposed program does not involve the NACHI ESOP or the NACHI SOP.
Matter of opinion and your remarks are noted.
Why would I disclose anything to you. Who or what are you? You seem to center your distasteful remarks around the NACHI SOP’s only. This program involves much more than that.
I stated nothing as ED of this organization and your statements are in direct violation of NACHI’s COE’s.
I could care less about ASHI/NAHI’s SOP’s. This program is geared to be a NACHI and CMI exclusive.
None. They could care less about your SOP’s.
The carriers involved are none of your business at this time. Any inspections covered by another carrier will automatically be carried over.
Relax, Joe. If I need anything from you, I will definitely call or email you.
John,
I am sure most NACHI members would be interested in a good deal, if
you found one.
Why threaten to take your secret prize to another organization? I am
very puzzled by your comments.
As to your comment:
"the failure of the MAB, Steering Committee, Education Committee,
and now two vice presidents of NACHI are the direct result of the
ESOP’s arrogance and obstruction."
If so many people are “failing” because of some postings on the forum by a
few ESOP members… ALL those people are weak indeed… or
On the other hand… your perceptions and exaggerated remarks may not be
mature or honest. I doubt anyone could wield that much power from
just posting on the forum.
Do you really see complete failure everywhere? Do you understand how
that makes you sound? I sense a vindictive ego.
NACHI and this forum is not attached to my sense of self worth. That
protects me from feeling hurt or proud, if people accept me or reject me.
Relax.
Mr. Bowman is simply struggling to be relevant, John. If any other association would have him, he would already be there.
So who should be on the new membership board for CMI?
Why not make it a board of directors that are the present total CMI membership?
We have more at interest for this program to make it than anyone else
Right now we have some insurance benefits with CMI
Lets see if we can add to the list of benefits other than just a title
John do you have something to offer??
rlb
Well not yet. But close. How about the possibility of E&O Insurance for all NACHI members starting at or around $2,000.00 and progressively lowering for Full members, CMI’s, etc. I’ve heard of possible rates (almost promised) as low as $1,000.00 or better for CMI’s. (All 1 mil coverage, less $2,500 deductible)
The agency’s looking into this are all rated in the top 5 of insurance providers.
I am sure that some ideas could be stirred up. But at this point, I will
reserve further comments or ideas until I see what will happen from the
top. I am just an inspector with a voice right now.
But, I think you are on the right trail.
Sounds like they must really like our SOP.
Anybody remember who the original authors of the NACHI SOP were? If I remember correctly they were:
Russel Ray
Joe Hagarty
John Onofrey
Jeff Pope
Blaine Wiley
Dave Bush
Gerry Beaumont
Joe Myers
Igor Smetanuk (?)
Jerry Peck (?)
Joe Farsetta
Jeff Remas (?)
Russell Buchannon
Nick Gromicko
Erby Crofutt
I think there was a Nancy or something.
Is this fairly accurate, or am I off?
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Last week I attended a “Law and disorder seminar” presented by Joseph Ferry Esq. several inspectors had Joe work up a "E&O insurance quote” and they all started at $2,000.00
The majority stayed at $2, 000.00
So this is already a “done deal”. It looks like someone is either out of touch, or …………. is just trying to jump on the bandwagon and make it seem like “they” have accomplished something.
A quote from Forest Gump …. “Stupid is as stupid does Sir!"
You’re right Frank.
$2,000.00 is the quote for full members.
I should have (sorry, I didn’t think of it) stated $2,000.00 or less for working members. Newbies as you would call them. Actually it looks as though it may be closer to the $1,750.00 costs.
The price you quoted for full members is expected to be 1,750.00 or less. Again, it actually looks as though it may be closer to the 1,500.00 mark.
Thanks for catching the mishap. I’ll be a little more careful.
Frank
You have now learned one of the advantages of having a “secret plan”.
You can always go back and change the particulars to be better than some one else’s published plan.
That way, no matter what they publish, yours is better.
Thank you for your comments. Perhaps you should add…
This program was brought to the attention of NACHI at the 2007 convention. Both Gromicko and Bowman were made aware of the proposed costs at that time.