‘They have their place’?
NOT when those who sell them, recommend them, don’t comprehend the little benefit they may give, if any… and the COST? $$$
And most often they push them on unknowing homeowners and often sold in conjunction with an INTERIOR scam basement system = scam, misrepresentation.
You’re off base Mark.
Go back and read what I said.
Mr Larson,
When those selling, recommending, pushing supposed repairs (with that supposed lifetime warranty bs too lool) doesn’t mean you sir.
However, there sure are quite a few others in this-business (or somewhat related to) who’ll tell 'n sell homeowners anything to make a buck and continue their blshttt, false, misleading claims etc. 
Please try and remember, i heard sooo much of crap/lies, seen soo many screwed up installed interior system crap for sooo dang long it often causes involuntary personal protein spills… got milk?