Rafter board connection

So i am just doing a mock inspection of the rental that i am living in, but came across these connections in the attic. Would i be right to think that this is a major defect?

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It is a defect…major, minor,…I let the buyer decide what is important to them but I would recommend correction by a qualified contractor for enhanced structural integrity. It needs to be in your report. :smile:



Thank you Larry, that helps. In unprofessional opinion though, its terrible right?! ha :grimacing:

I’d put it in my report to cover myself, but in reality, it’s just sloppy work. It’s not going anywhere.


Looks like a Simpson joist hanger twisted to become a 45 degree hanger. You can see the left part of the hanger is beginning to tear from the forced twist. Yes it’s a defect. Not sure about the nails as they look like 8 penny nails. Simpson requires proprietary nails with their hangers and are much shorter. They have excellent sheer strength which is why hangers must be matched to nails.

Yeah, Stephen hit it right on:

Not 100% sure from the picture but it looks like a hip or valley rafter with valley or hip jacks framed into it (at 45 degree angles). Those connections don’t usually require a metal hangar. It looks like a poor cut was being corrected with a hangar that was poorly installed. If that’s the only instance of poor cuts its not going to cause any issues.

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Doing a quick search i do think it a Simpson hanger, and they are just 8d penny nails smashed into it. By forced twist, do you mean just bashed to make it into a 45 degree?

Yes. You can see the tear on the top left and the metal gathered on the right side. Not the end of the world just poor workmanship. I see the other rafter is completely void of a hanger. I would document it and move on.

Yes, sorry for the terrible picture. it was a pretty tight fit yo get up there and awkward to take picture. It is a hip rafter. Would to nailing it be the proper way to fasten? And if it is an incorrect hanger and cuts that are barely in contact, would it not seriously question the structural integrity?

10-4. thank you Martin!

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At least they could have used 16 penny nails and clinched them on the reverse side. LOL! :rofl: :grin:

I suppose the hanger could have been an attempt to “extend” and conceal the cut huh.

Something like this would have been better (Simpson LSSJ28RZ Left Skew Adjustable Jack Hanger):

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Larry, that is just a cool looking hanger.

It’s already gone.

Not to worry. If it gives way - that Romex cable should hold it. :flushed:



I agree, Mark…with your emoticon…:flushed::flushed::flushed::flushed::flushed: