From code check page 54
I would mention it to your client that they may want to have protection by the window
By that “standard,” almost every window in a modern home would need rails or safety glass.
Isn’t that a bit overly-cautious?
didn’t write just looked it up , I am guessing most windows are above 34 inches
As I already stated…
It does not include every window in the house. It’s usually the windows lower than my knee.
LOL i just measured mine all of them are 34 inches to the bottom of the window
Most window openings are above 36 inches in my area. If they fall below that height, it is usually a dramatic drop in height. More like 12 to 18 inches above floor level. Those are the windows I’m referring to.
I could care less about windows that are 30 to 36 inches off the floor.
Interesting though good post .
If the bottom of the glazing is less than 18’ and the top of the glaziing is min 36" from the floor it must be tempered(safety glass) inter changeable word by the way.
In lew of that, there must be a 1-1/2 in guardrail that does not touch surface of the glass when under load at the 36" point.
Tritto.
I have found children to be quite problematic to the general welfare and upkeep of the standard residential home. Thus, I pretty much recommend this as a safety upgrade every-time I come across the little bastards.:twisted:
http://blogs.phillynews.com/inquirer/zozone/bubbleBoy%2520Bubbles.jpg
What happened to 18 from the floor and 24 from the door when dealing with windows/glass not to mention adjoining walkway or other ped. area adjacent to…
Indiv. panes are solid unit? Some muni’s used to allow impact glazing over indiv. panes and over entire unit if swinging… made no sense that solid units made a difference one way or other but AHJ at time was ref. IRC.
GL
:shock:WOW!:shock:
Once you see a child get hurt you’ll change your tune. My 5 year old nephew had this happen while he was playing and required stitches. Luckily it didn’t hit him in the eye. Never question safety. I always recommend any window under 18" from the floor, at the bottom of a stairway, or in the path of a swinging door, and the bath area. Just makes good sense.
It is helpful only if we can understand what you are saying. Often, others don’t have the reference book you are using.
Can you clear it up? Thanks.
By what standard? Do you have a reference?
Going by this today.
safetyglass.pdf (188 KB)
see bottom of page 22
I have seen it, in fact, I was a child injured by a plate glass window. My sister required more than 200 stitches, while I was fortunate enough to have only required 15.
Again, the windows pictured do not represent a safety hazard based on what can be seen in the picture.
Just curious what you would consider a safety hazard seeing that the glass pretty much touches the floor. A vaccuum cleaner could bust that.
Found This
Am I missing something?
18 from floor, 24 from door, grab points in wet locations etc…
At floor level, if this was standard plate glass, I would recommend it be at minimum impact glazed (some areas don’t allow this any longer) or preferably tempered and specifically… if those are individual panes they would be treated/replaced up to the 18" point and/or the sash treated/replaced in it’s entirety if it is an Insulated Glass Unit.
If I were wrong… which I doubt, I would rather have someone sue me for being overly cautious than the latter…
This is pretty minimal stuff, but it seems there is still discussion on why this *doesn’t *need to be impact glazed at minimum or tempered…
I would certainly call it out if it wasn’t. Which I can’t tell.
Tim
I can see this turning into another GFCI thread
In these types of situations, rather than making up my own standards, I defer to model codes, which are nationally recognized standards.
We can recommend upgrades all day long, but where do we draw the line? These windows/panes are no more deserving of safety/tempered glass than any other standard window in a home. If you recommend replacements here, you may as well suggest the same for any window in the home that is within arms-reach.
Codes make no reference to vacuume cleaners
I think you skipped post 34 Jeff.