Stray wire in service panel

Originally Posted By: away
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This is my first post and second mock inspection. I came across a situation where there are two neutral conductors under a single terminal. From a search done here and looking back over every book I have on electrical inspection, I have found that this is not a proper installation.


I also found a stray wire in the panel. The orange sheathing was marked Septic. The black conductor in the same orange sheathing was on a 20 amp breaker. Does anyone know why they would run the red conductor and then terminate it inside the panel? Maybe the electrician didn't know the septic only needed 120v? Grasping at straws here.

I wrote both up as needing further evaluation/correction as needed by an electrician. I am also thinking that terminating a wire in the panel with a wire nut is not allowed but can't seem to find a specific reference in my books. Just a gut feeling. Maybe I read that here, just don't know for sure.

Here is a picture if that helps.

Andy Way
Keystone Residential Inspection Services
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Originally Posted By: Joey D’Adamo
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The capped off red wire is ok. They ran 3 cdr cable to that location for future use. This is not too uncommon. At my parent’s house, there is 10/3 to the dryer plug location, with the red capped off on each end, wired to a 15A breaker, with a duplex receptical in a mudring at the dryer location. Why? Future expansion for an electric dryer.


Anyway, it's just fine and only there for future expansion.


Originally Posted By: roconnor
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The double lugged neutrals are a concern, and should be on individual terminals. Many topics here that discuss that.


I also don't see a concern with an extra wire capped at the ends. Wire nuts for breaker wires are okay in a panel as long as there is enough room. I am assuming that the other end of the wire is also capped and protected. Probably would have been a good idea to label both ends as a "spare" if thats the case.

Just my opinion and 2-nickels ... ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)


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Originally Posted By: away
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Joey/Robert,


Thanks for the replies. I guess I was over-thinking the red wire thing. The fact that one conductor in there was live got me concerned as this is a friend’s house.


I did call out the double neutrals after finding plenty of posts here regarding them.

My friend is planning on having a bonus room, bedroom, and bathroom finished out in the second story and I told him to have the electrician check out and correct the double neutrals when he shows up.

Thanks again for the help.