Originally Posted By: bsarles
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is it legal or ok for sump pump to discharge into the main drain?[/b]
is it legal or ok for sump pump to discharge into the main drain?[/b]
Originally Posted By: jbehling
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Not here as it is too much of a load on the system. I would hazard a guess that most municipalities have the same rule. Check with your local laws.
Jason.
Originally Posted By: dvalley
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I see this set-up a lot in my area and I always tell my clients that sump pumps connected to the sanitary system are prohibited by the “By-law to Control Waste Discharges to Municipal Sewers 2000-263”.
Ground water cannot be discharged into a sanitary drain line, the sewer treatment plants work hard enough without having to process clean water. During a storm, excess rain water going to a sump pump is being pumped into the sanitary waste system and can overwhelm the City's sanitary systems.
Install a dry well or pipe the sump pump discharge to a storm drain line or the curb. Sanitary sewer systems transport household waste from toilets, faucets, laundry tubs and floor drains to the sewage treatment facilities. While stormwater systems are designed to collect rainwater from the streets.
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Originally Posted By: dspencer
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If the property has a septic system the sump pump has to be connected to the main waste. (In Ohio)
Originally Posted By: dvalley
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Darren,
I hate to break the bad news to you but I personally think you are incorrect. We have numerous septics here in the Northern areas and if I see any sort of sump pump water, house footing drains or downspouts going into the septic system or anywhere near the leaching field, I inform my clients that sumps must absolutely be kept away from any septic system.
They must discharge to a storm drain line or the curb as I stated. All that excess sump water going into the septic can cause the field to over flow into the yard causing thousands of dollars of damage. Minimizing any quantity of water that is discharged into the septic system on a regular basis will extend the life of any septic system.
In reality, most people that decide to divert their sump pump into their septic system will find that their drain field will flood or become very saturated sooner verses later. Often the water can't flow out of the septic tank to the drain field because of the flooded or saturated conditions, so the water backs up into the septic tank, which fills up, causing the water to back up into the house and ultimately into the floor drains.
Not a good situation.
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Originally Posted By: aslimack
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Agree with Dave, I’ll also mention that in my area, there are 2 municipalities where when selling a home, you are responsible for having the underground perimeter drain replaced if it has failed, as well as installing a sump and pump. (if not already present) Both must discharge into the storm sewer. This is in an area that has homes mostly in the 50 to 100 yr. range where you would expect the tile to be suspect (or shot) at that point. Anyone who has had the origional drain fail and simply re-routed the downspouts above ground with elbows and extensions must put out the $6000.00 + to return it to its origional function. Thats quite a hit and certainly enters the decision process when it comes to re-locating or not.
Adam, A Plus
Originally Posted By: dspencer
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I am a builder in the Manfiled area and our Inspectors will FAIL our plumbing if it is ran any other way… code is always changing but as of now this is code for us. ( Richland County )
Originally Posted By: aslimack
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Darren,
These are older existing homes. All new homes must be as you say here as well.
Adam, A Plus
Originally Posted By: dspencer
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Yes…I never questioned why. They where planing to have all septic systems goto the Mound system in 2005 but talks kinda stopped, as far as I know (until next permit). Code goes back and forth so much it would be nice to have a solid standard for all…
Originally Posted By: bsarles
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Thanks guys for all the feed back on the subject.I rejected the way it was installed.iI told my client that it was most likley wrong but I would reference it to make sure b4 i wrote the final report.