Usual point of entry to these spaces

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#1

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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This switch was located “at the usual point of entry” near the door to the space in a basement.


It was easily reached and was accessible without having to look for it in the dark.

I was happy with this switch, and where it was located.

I was not happy with the type of plate that was used, because it represents a possible source of injury, such as a cut to a hand.

The corner of this metal plate is very sharp, and is not the type of plate that should have been used, but instead, a "handy box" cover with no sharp edges and one designed for that type of box should be recommended by the HI

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#2

Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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I am not sure if it is a code issue but I agree that is a poor choice. It is just one of those “what we had on the truck” issues … or what the homeowner had.


Worse is when they use the phenolic flush cover. When you snag that one it will break and expose the interior.

#3

Originally Posted By: Brian A. Goodman
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It is just one of those “what we had on the truck” issues … or what the homeowner had.


Gotta be. That's a stainless steel cover (a very grungy one).

#4

Originally Posted By: Ryan Jackson
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Would you really write this on a report?

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#5

Originally Posted By: phinsperger
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I understand Joe’s concern here and and yes it should have a different cover but in actuality if it were in one of my inspections I wouldn’t even bother with it. It will keep sparks in and fingers out. I would be more prone to address it if the plate were a plastic one. No sharp edges but installed on a box like this they tend to break and then not serving their purpose.

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#6

Originally Posted By: jwortham
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Would I look for it?


No.


But if I noticed it during the course of my inspection?

I would absolutely write it up in my report. My report is more than just the facts. It's a marketing tool.

"If he is so thorough that he notices the little things, I can be reasonably sure he found the BIG things."

Just adds more to the perceived value of my services. And a satisfied customer recommends you to family and friends.

Just my nickels worth.

#7

Originally Posted By: Bob Badger
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jwortham wrote:
Just adds more to the perceived value of my services. And a satisfied customer recommends you to family and friends.


Or if I was the customer I would think the HI is just trying to fill pages on the report with every little thing.

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#8

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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At least mention this situation so that the “customer” does not get hurt or have a family member injured.


I am aware of someone who was injured when they slipped and came into contact with the sharp edge of a similar plate that was installed in this manner.

The HI should think about the liability, and I am speaking to those regularly involved in offering the service of home inspection.

Never mind about what the customer thinks of your ability to discover items of little consequence, be proud that you at least noted it -- it shows some interest in the practical safeguarding of persons.

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#9

Originally Posted By: jwortham
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Possibly. And if I was writing up dents in the drywall and scrapes in the paint, he’d have a point.


If I write "Downstairs switch has a cover with sharp edges, while this will not affect the use or continued operation of the device, the edge may cause an injury if attention is not paid during it's use." How can that be bad?

Or I guess I could just say to hell with it, if he cuts himself, it's his tough *#$% for not paying more attention. I guess I won't write up the one slippery step leading to the basement or the railing with the horizontal ballisters on the stairs that looks so modern and stylish but makes a nice ladder for his 3 year old.

After all, can't have him thinking my report might have fluff in it!

#10

Originally Posted By: rpalac
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I agree from Jeffs point,


I don't go out of my way to scrutinize but if I seem something I discuss the situation and make a small note or comment in the write up.

I look at it as my job to inspect and inform. I feel as though I'm am more liable by not writing something down if it is discussed.

I am sure to say thatt this is only a recomendation for protection against a cut or torn clothing.

Bob P.

And If I seem worthy my findings are ussually 15 to 30 pages alone. I've never had a person not tell me I wasn't thorough. I report what I see and tell them these are often suggested items you might want to address for yourself at some time.

#11

Originally Posted By: John M Borchers
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I’d be more concerned about the NM wire above the box being accidentally cut with a metal object while someone is going up and down the steps.


John