What's wrong with this panel? (at least 4)

Originally Posted By: Jon Jones
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Took me a minute to notice the biggie ![icon_confused.gif](upload://qv5zppiN69qCk2Y6JzaFYhrff8S.gif)


Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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I see the wire identification problems and the double taps but I assume the biggie is that splice from 2 whites to a black wire. Where is that going? What kind of splice is it under the tape?


Originally Posted By: Michael Ardai
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Grounds on the isolated bus, and neutrals on the ground? Also, the red/black pair on the upper left breaker may be an issue with an overloaded neutral. As for the taped-up black wire, it looks like it is a spare; the whites seem to just be behind it.


/mike


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Originally Posted By: aleleika
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Whats with the bare aluminum wire on bottom of panel? Is that the Neutral conductor? Is it connected? Can’t see if there is a connection at the neutral bus bar.



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Originally Posted By: Jon Jones
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The black is just taped up. Double-tapped on the breaker, no Noalox on the aluminum feeders, a mis-wired 3 wire circuit on the upper left (to the duplex breaker), and the ground and neutral busses are wired opposite of the way they should be. I was just getting ready to put the cover back on when I noticed that one. icon_cool.gif


Originally Posted By: Joey D’Adamo
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Jon Jones wrote:
he ground and neutral busses are wired opposite of the way they should be.


There was another one like that a while back... and Joe T had indicated that it doesn't matter as long as everything is still correctly bonded accordingly.


Originally Posted By: Michael Ardai
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It only doesn’t matter for the main panel. This looks like a subpanel (4 wire feeder) where neutrals and grounds must be kept separate. If you use the wrong bar, the box itself is tied to the neutral and can become a shock hazard.



73,


/mike

Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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Making any serious assessment from a picture is like inspecting the house by looking in the mail slot.


Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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Greg Fretwell wrote:
Making any serious assessment from a picture is like inspecting the house by looking in the mail slot.



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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Greg:


I agree, but you were doing great in the past and seemed to see the violations easily in other pictures. ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)

To the Home Inspector, give it to the electrician and when taking images clearer pictures always make it easier for everyone to give a personal opinion.


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Originally Posted By: Thomas Ogryski
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Back fed devices, such aas main breakers and lug sets must be secured in place with an additional fastener. (408.36(F)).


Top left hand twin breaker with the black & red probably is a multiwire circuit & the conductors must be connected to opposite phases.

On the bottom left 2 pole 20 amp breaker, the white wire cannot be used as an ungrounded conductor, if it is, then it must be painted, taped or otherwise marked so that it will not be mistaken for a grounded conductor.

Termination of the neutrals on the equipment ground bus is also a problem. It is probably marked on one of the labels inside the panel that the busbar on the left is for equipment grounds. Newer panels usually have a label or tag next to the busbar that says "equipment ground."

BTW, it is not a code violation to install aluminum conductors without an oxide inhibitor unless the manufacturer of the cable or teerminal specifically require it. Foolish to omit it, but it is almost never required except by local codes or utility companies.

Tom