Worn out topic...doorbell transformer

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Originally Posted By: cobarr
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Is there ever an instance where a doorbell transformer can be in a service panel cabinet?


I see this all the time. Do you verbally bring attention to this to the client or write it up. Why do electricians do this so often?

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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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you cannot have dissimilar voltages in the same enclosure

Now please can we leave the transformers alone   

Regards

Gerry

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Originally Posted By: bking
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The preferred method is to have them inside of their own panel. Electricians figure that they are safer inside of the electrical panel rather than just mounted on a box cover in open air.

It could be argued either way depending on the failure condition and result thereof. The only thing we can do is recommend that no low voltage wires be inside of a 120/240 electrical panel.

Does anyone report the garage door sensor wires that come out of the edge of the ceiling outlet? This is a violation also and not enforced by the county here at all. Its hard to tell during an inspection but these wires are inside the outlet box in 99 percent of the cases and visible during construction.

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Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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When I see the sensor wire come out next to the box they are running outside the box but they get shoved inside while the rockers are there and get pulled out on the trim. They are sopposed to notch the drywall and bring it out next to the cover.


I suppose folks may do it different where the inspector is not watching for it.

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Originally Posted By: psmothers
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Jon, on the same topic of dissimilar voltages in the same enclosure another one I see a lot is low volt a/c thermostat wiring in the a/c service disconnect with high volt.

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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/1/11050513_013.jpg ]

It is wrong, so call it out when you see it. Depending on the electric company that is called, they may or may not see it as a problem and fix it. But then, half the electricians around here don't recognize FPE panels as an issue either!

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Originally Posted By: cobarr
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Thanks to all for the feedback!

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Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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Nice Brown Recluse you have in there too.

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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Greg Fretwell wrote:

Nice Brown Recluse you have in there too.

There are so many of those and black widows around here we don't even notice them!! This house had several in the attic too. 

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Originally Posted By: James D Mosier
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Is the red cardboard box UL approved?

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Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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Blaine I am right down the road from you (So Ft Myers).


My wife is a project manager for Centex (Emerson Square) and she has a couple guys a week getting hit with a recluse.

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