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Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Jim,


UNfortunately, NACHIs position relative to whom may and may not post on this board allows you to continue this dribble. If it was up to me, I'd tell you to make sure the door doesn't hit you in the a$% on the way out,

Nick wouldn't hear of it, though. So detractors like you are allowed to continue.

Thank you for the enlightenment on how Nick is a fraud and has bilked this org, how he lies as to whether ASHI knows about us or not, and how our members have a right to know.

Now, where was that door?

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Joe Farsetta

Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."

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Originally Posted By: pdacey
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An honest man need not defend himself.

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Slainte!


Patrick Dacey
swi@satx.rr.com
TREC # 6636
www.southwestinspections.com
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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Jim:


How do you feel "all NACHI members are being hosed?" In what way? NACHI doesn't take anyone's money. They join and renew freely. I can't hold a gun to anyone's head and force them to renew. Most members join and renew at NACHI because they calculate that it's worth 79 cents a day to their business... and it is.

If you can name a better place for a home inspector to invest 79 cents on his business... I'll resign.

Nick

Truth be told, I not only can't make them join or renew, but I can't stop them from joining and renewing either. It has nothing to do with me.

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Originally Posted By: jedwards
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Jim, buddy, this is pretty sad. You need a cause to champion to make your mark in this world, and to feed your own emotional needs, and you choose this??? And you do it THIS way??? icon_sad.gif icon_redface.gif


Wow. I'm sorry, man. You obviously have issues. Best of luck. Really, I wish you well.

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John Edwards
Assurance South, LLC home page
Pre-Paid Legal Services

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Originally Posted By: rsummers
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Tell me Jim what do you get out of ASHI that make being a member worth the dues paid? Do you think it makes you a better inspector than others? I think that you should join us or leave us why do you even come here to post if its such a joke? Are you trying to save us form NACHI and the evil Nick G. Why thanks for looking out for us what would we do with out you. Get a grip dude I’m starting to think you and others should all just go away I’m getting tired of reading your bull s#!t. If you think the members of this ORG take what you say and are all going to leave you because of it I’m guessing your wrong. Thanks for all the inside information what would we do with out you. icon_exclaim.gif Nick just tell me when you need more cash Spend it where it needs to be spent the entertainment alone is worth the price of admission.

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Originally Posted By: rpasquier
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I’m sorry, but WTF was that?


Jim, you're not even a member, WTF are you complaining about?

What organization do you represent that has such a hard time with NACHI's existence?

Why are you trying to be a proctologist for NACHI, how about if you become a Proctologist to the organization that you belong to?

If you are worried about money, worry about money where you have invested it.

You are not a member, so to see you coming down on it, raises so many flags with me that it is insane.

If you were a member, I might actually take you somewhat seriously, but considering my limited experience with Nick and NACHI, you are just so full of it that if I told you how I really feel, I might even be offended.

If you don't like NACHI, then go away.

I would like to know WHO and what other organizations that you are affiliated with.

Because you obviously have an agenda, and I would really love to know what organizations agenda it is.

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Originally Posted By: Guest
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The night shift has spoken. I’m crazy, full of it, and Joe F. is tired of me.


Nobody likes what I said, but when your only response to to harpoon me, it deflects focus from the issues I raised. It almost sounds eerily like: "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"

Everybody's talkin'
Nobody's walkin'

Guys, I'm not interested in trying to save you from yourselves. If nobody who reads this thinks the questions I raised are worth getting answered, then don't bother. I've spoken my mind. You're all free to dismiss me, but until what I said is addressed, this org will always want for credibility.

Could be it's worse than I figured,

Jim

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Originally Posted By: Guest
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[quote=“jfarsetta”]Chad,


Your affiliation with Dennis R's association tells it all. He cannot stand the fact that NACHI realized the role that Realtors play in the inspection world. Dennis is like a diode, one way. He does not like inspectors who solicit business from Realtors, nor does he like orgs that do not support his views. So, it it no shock to me that you swipe at this org. But then again, who cares what you think.

Hi Joe,

Dennis isn't my mentor, my father, my confidante, or anything else. He's the guy that organized a handful of other people that feel there's a conflict of interest in being beholden to Realtors for our livelihood. I happen to agree with those folks on this issue. My relationship with IHINA is nothing more than a promise and a handshake. It didn't create my opinion on the matter it just put me in touch w/ roughly a hundred folks that shared my opinion. It's an organization based solely on honor. Period.
If that "tells it all", I guess I'm OK with that.

Back to the real issue: I don't know why it's so damn touchy and why only a dozen members have jumped in to address it. I guess complacency really does run rampant in our world.

I didn't attack anyone in my previous posts, heck, I even said I liked coming here. Jim's points could be valid, don't any of the members really want to know?

What are all the income sources? (I bet there's more than just dues)
What are all the expenses? What assets does NACHI own? Why's that hard? Why would it offend anyone that the question's being asked?

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Originally Posted By: gsutterfield
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Jim, Chad



I want to know , but I assure you getting anyone to tell you anything around here is like pulling teeth ![icon_cry.gif](upload://r83gSGUzNOacIqpjVReDwcR83xZ.gif)

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Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko
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Yes it’s true, NACHI has one outside source of income that exceeds all membership dues. No I am not revealing it or how I spend it. And yes I will continue to split advertising costs with members as I see fit. This outside source of income keeps us clean in many ways as we never hurt for money. We need not cut shady deals. We need not accept paid advertising. We don’t even sell as much as a little banner ad on this 5.3 million hit/month site.


NACHI is not grant funded and so is under no legal or contractual obligation to do anything or provide anything to anyone. Our main source of income has no strings attached.

I think you are confusing a non-profit corp with a registered charity which may be under some spending transparency and employee compensation guidelines. I don't know because NACHI isn't a charity. A non-profit corporation is similar to any other corporation in that it is not prohibited from taking all its income and spending it on pink roses.

Dennis & I have argued many times over Buyer's Agency. I have been told that the law Mass finally passed, saw it my way and exempted BUYER's agents which is what I was my whole career. Most home buyers in the US now work with a Buyer's agent. I'm not sure though, its just what I have been told about the law.

Nick

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Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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Just wondering, would the BOD of ASHI let a non member see their books? If so, who do I ask? I’ll bet that I’m not the only one who’d like to see them.

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This Ole House-Home Inspections


William A. Campbell TREC # 6372


Serving the Texas Coastal Bend


(361) 727-0602 (home)


(361) 727-0055 (office)


(361) 229-4103 (cell)

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Originally Posted By: Guest
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Will,


You're a member of NACHI, you ask to see NACHI's books. I'm sure that since you have a financial interest in the org. they'll let you look and then you can tell Jim or I whether or not there's any impropriety. I trust you.
As for ASHI.. I doubt they'd let a non member look at the books, but I bet they have a budget for the members to look at. I don't know really. I don't belong to ASHI either.
One interesting thing you mentioned was; should we ask ASHI's Board of Directors. Think about it.

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Originally Posted By: dfrend
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I don’t know if Nick would show me the books, and I really don’t care. It is HIS to run. As long as I think he is running it according to my best interests, I will continue to renew. Just because someone puts money into an orginization does not mean that the organization has any duty to share financial records.


Financial share: in?ter?est ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ntrst, -tr-st, -trst)
n. A claim, or legal share

I'll assume most know what financial means. I don't think any of us but Nick has a financial interest in NACHI.

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Daniel R Frend
www.nachifoundation.org
The Home Inspector Store
www.homeinspectorstore.com

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Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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Chad, I have no need to see the NACHI books. Everything I need to know about NACHI, I can see on this web site. Just the benifits that we receive from NACHI is enough to know that the $$ is spent in wisdom.


What do you get for joining IHINA? You take a pledge that you will not seek out realtor referrals. THAT’S IT. Bottom line. Period.


What do you get when you join A$HI? An oppertunity to SPEND MORE MONEY WITH THEM. NOTHING ABOUT A$HI IS FREE!! It's all about SPENDING MORE MONEY!!

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This Ole House-Home Inspections
William A. Campbell TREC # 6372
Serving the Texas Coastal Bend
(361) 727-0602 (home)
(361) 727-0055 (office)
(361) 229-4103 (cell)

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Originally Posted By: Guest
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I get absolutely nothing from IHINA except the association of others who share my concerns and moral beliefs. I didn’t sign up to “get” anything. I signed up to make a public statement about my ethical convictions. Being a member of IHINA quietly asserts my beliefs. It’s not all about me and what I get.


The thread isn't about IHINA or whether or not Jim's a good guy or a malcontent. It's not about my crappy website or my motive to join IHINA.

It's about NACHI. As I've said before I'd like to join NACHI and reap the obvious benefits that membership bestows. I'd just like to know that in a year I won't feel a compulsive need to wash my hands.

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Originally Posted By: rpalac
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Okay guy’s and Gal’s


When you join an orginization,
one of the following
a.) it's because you believe in it,
b.) morrallysupport it
c.0 finacially gain from its association,
d.) associate in some common demeaner
e.0
f.0
etc.

The bottom line is we choose to belong.
I belong to the NRA. Do I know where all the funding goes. No. They do have a set of books. Can I see them? Probably not. Can I change there decisions?...More than likely not.

I like being here and so do others. It's not perfect, I do care where my money goes but I feel satisfied at this moment. Chad you seem like a great guy from interacting with you on several threads. Your pretty smart. You choose to come here to ineract with each of the threads because it entises your knowledge. that's fine, keep doing it. If you choose to join it for your own reasons and probably because you feel as though it will give you good recognition or exposure. That's why I joined. So what's the big deal.

NACHI happens to do a good job of marketing. I find that important. ASHI and NAHI seem to be to expensive for my taste and I don't gain anything by using them. That's my view, my option, my slant of things.

If you write on this thread to jab at people....I find that it is not very becoming of anyone to do so. If you really have issues, that's okay too. But don't condenm the people or the orginization. We made our choice and we can stay or leave. Were not captive. Nick, Chris and others try hard to make things happen. Yeah, there are things that might not be favorable to all of us in different peoples view. Raise questions ask for facts get info., but don't condemn.

So how else can we improve our machine?

I'm anxious for some of those education meeting to come to Philly........oh, I'm sure other orgs do that as well....gee, do they listen to you when you speak? Do you get wide advertizing direct and indirect?

Well maybe you do....

Bob P.

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Originally Posted By: csoutherland
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I am not new to this business nor am I a sheep being led to slaughter. I am very well educated in a number of fields as are many of the members in this organization. I have been a member of other professional organizations and joined this one because of my belief that professionals should be associated with other professionals. NACHI is growing and does have some growing pains. Many of the concerns discussed on this thread are being discussed in the member’s section. Many of us do have concerns, but, feel that Nick and others are addressing them. It will take some time, but the concerns of non-members, while provocative, should be taken with a grain of salt. One’s motives for criticizing an organization that they are not a member of should always be questioned.


Carl

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Originally Posted By: lschmid
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WE BELIEVE!




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Larry Schmid


First Choice Home Inspection,Inc.


South Carolina Chapter President


www.1stchoicehomeinspection.com


A SAFE HOME IS A HAPPY HOME

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Originally Posted By: Guest
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Nick,


You are correct that buyer's brokers are specifically excluded from the MA law which prohibits real estate brokers from referring home inspectors.

And as someone pointed out, you are under no obligation to show me NACHI's books. In fact, I don't want to see them. Truth is, I'm not a "numbers" guy and I probably wouldn't understand them anyway. Besides I don't much care because it isn't my money.

And those kind members who have been good enough to respond have made it clear. NACHI has multiple sources of income which Nick feels no need to disclose to members. He spends it as he likes, and members are OK with that. Well then who the hell am I to complain? But why not just be a little more up front about it and call it The Nick Gromicko Club?

I thought that would bother more people. Turns out I was wrong. I guess I'm not as smart as I thought I was. You folks know what you want and you deserve to get it- good and hard.

And you shouldn't alienate Chad. You guys need him a lot more than he needs you.

Jim Morrison
Lancaster, MA

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Originally Posted By: kpapp
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and your business look very professional but that is my opinion.


Thank you for your time
Ken

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