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Originally Posted By: Guest
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kpapp wrote:
Jim,


3. What is your agenda??...All of your questions have been answered but you have done nothing but make you and your business look very professional but that is my opinion.

Thank you for your time
Ken


I really hate when I make typos like that.
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Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Jim M


Inquiring minds want to know! Oops, am I allowed to use that, or is that copywrited material. ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

I agree that no one here has ever offered to show anyone the books, members or not. No one here has ever implied that Nick should be showing anyone the books, except you (a non member).

It could very well be that you and your fellow cohorts are jealous because in all the years of your existence your association has not managed to offer you so much, for so little as Nick has done with the Nick Gromicko Club.

I don't think anyone here really cares what Nick does with the money, I for one DON'T. As long as I find value in that $289 I send him ever year, he can go have a FU** fest with it for all I care.

That fear of fading you are experiencing is your own fading, not ours or the Nick Gromicko Club. That in my book is a very valid feeling but I am going to leave you to deal with it, since it is your own fading and not my own.

I see the setup that NACHI has as being superior to the other associations. The other associations seem to follow interests of the few members at the top and not what is best for the industry, the inspector or the consumer.

If Nick was to assemble a BOD as you suggested they would be deciding our fate, which would mostly resemble their own self serving interests.

BTW...did I tell you that another member benefit of being a NACHI member was that I don't have to pay for credit card processing service, the Nick Gromicko Club processes our for FREE, that means NO CHARGE!

That service alone is worth more than what I pay a year for membership.

You are one seriously funny dude and really you are not that hard to follow. ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

Joe Myers

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Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Quote:
And you shouldn't alienate Chad. You guys need him a lot more than he needs you.


Joe Myers
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Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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I have just wasted an hour of my time reading this thread, but for some reason I just couldn’t stop.


If I were investing a 1,000 dollars I might would care how it is being spent, for 289 dollars I personally don't believe anyone has the right to see the books.

There may be more credibility if they were visible, but in all honesty there is more than 289 dollars worth of information on this web site. Many forms,documents,mouse pads,advertisement,etc. I am in an area where most people don't know what ashi or nachi even is so why would I need to join? Well I didn't , But I see the benefit of being a member for the use of the logo,some of the documents,and some of the other benefits. So I don't give a rats how nick spends the money. For him to invest his time and effort to have all this, and the freedom for inspectors to message in, we shouldn't complain about where the money goes, especially if you haven't even paid the money. That would be like me going to the local churches in town and asking to see their books. Not going to happen, however , after you become a member then you can see them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you don't like the way it is ran, don't join, but for goodness sakes, DROP IT. If you are interested, which apparently you are or you wouldn't continue to pursue it, then join, and then submit you would like to see the books. Doesn't sound like you will though. I personally will get 289 dollars out of the mouse pads and the available stuff here on the site. I am more concerned when they pads will be delivered, as I have now read that it takes a while. Gee I wish I would have sent them all in at once!


Well that's my opinion. I didn't want to be left out! It just seems nuts to me to want to see where the money goes when you are only asked to give 289 dollars. If you don't think you can get your moneys worth, don't pay it, But personally after all that has been said here, I wouldn't post either. Kind of like burning the flag but reaping some of the benefits of living in America....in a smaller way of course. Nothing positive can come from here on out on this topic from those that want to see the books. UNITY..UNITY..the only way to go forward.

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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Gotta say, Mr. Kelly, I ditto your remark about spending time reading this thread. Personally, I don’t really care what any nonmember who is a member of another organization thinks of me or the Nick Gromicko Club.


I chose this Club because I didn't like the way the other little boys and girls played at the other clubs, and the folks here are helpful, smart, witty and friendly. And I think the posts from the people from the other organizations are a good indication of not only how the feel about everyone else, but of themselves as well. People who chastise you are usually telling you more about themselves than they are about you.

I'm going back to the members section now. Long live the Nick Gromicko Club! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

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Originally Posted By: gsutterfield
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Mr. Morrison


Since you started this thread I assume you also called yourself a prophet , which is defined in part, as a person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of God is expressed, a soothsayer , or the Chief spokesman of a movement or cause .


Since I don’t believe you were sent by God ,I then feel you are referring to yourself as the Chief spokesman of a movement or cause . Now , would you care to inform us as to the movement or cause ,and who made you the Chief ?


Never mind , I think we all know !!!!

By the way Jim , just 3 words below prophet in my dictionary is the word prophylactic . Why don't you slip one over yourself so you don't get a disease from NACHISM ![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif)

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Originally Posted By: rpasquier
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Jim Morrison wrote:
Nick,

.......

And as someone pointed out, you are under no obligation to show me NACHI's books. In fact, I don't want to see them. Truth is, I'm not a "numbers" guy and I probably wouldn't understand them anyway. Besides I don't much care because it isn't my money.

And those kind members who have been good enough to respond have made it clear. NACHI has multiple sources of income which Nick feels no need to disclose to members. He spends it as he likes, and members are OK with that. Well then who the hell am I to complain? But why not just be a little more up front about it and call it The Nick Gromicko Club?

I thought that would bother more people. Turns out I was wrong. I guess I'm not as smart as I thought I was. You folks know what you want and you deserve to get it- good and hard.

And you shouldn't alienate Chad. You guys need him a lot more than he needs you.

Jim Morrison
Lancaster, MA


Why do you think that it would bother us?, shoot, why does it bother you?

As I and many others have said, you are not a member, so what is your REAL problem with Nick and NACHI?

What organization are you aligned with that makes you so angry and so quick to try and pull the trigger on NACHI.

What's your agenda bud?

What organization do you belong to that has decided that the best defense is a good offense and the quickest way to do that would be from within?

Tell your buddies at whatever organization sent you here, that it failed, we here at the Nick Gromicko club get what we need and want, and really don't care what the books look like as long as Uncle Sam is happy with them.

You and your little boys in the other club will have to find some other way to build your organization then trying to tear other organizations down to your level.

We will just continue to do what we are doing and continue to grow as we get more members that are unhappy with those other clubs and how they are run. Because the politics and fees and other nonsense that I have seen and heard about make me want to run away from those other organizations as fast as my little inspector legs can carry me.

Have fun in your other club, but it is time to start working on your own problems and grow your own club, because trying to tear down this one, in order for yours to feel superior is not going to work.

Have a nice life....
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Originally Posted By: Scott Patterson
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jmyers wrote:
BTW...did I tell you that another member benefit of being a NACHI member was that I don't have to pay for credit card processing service, the Nick Gromicko Club processes our for FREE, that means NO CHARGE!

That service alone is worth more than what I pay a year for membership.

Joe Myers


I never knew about this, this is a good feature. I searched the entire NACHI site and could not find anything about Free Credit Card Processing, could you tell me and others about this. It might be worth joining just for this, as I spend about $1100+ a year in CC processing fees.

Scott Patterson
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Originally Posted By: rwills
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Come on NACHI members, give our visitor friends a break! Where’s you’re hospitality? Can’t you see what’s happening? These guys are getting screwed by their own org and thy’re pi$$ed because after all these years, they’re being “ordered” to spend additional money without being told why! hence the "branding issue! Now, they’re searching for a better way to spend their money but want to know where it’s going. Can you blame them? Once they realize their money spent verses the benefits gained is much better here, then you will see them turn a red “no” into a green “yes” under NACHI member! So lighten up! be a good neighbor! We will gain more membership by showing people what they have to gain by joining, than we will rubbing in their faces what they now have!

–
Bob Wills - MAB Chairman


BW Inspection Services


Warminster, Pa.


http://www.bwinspections.com

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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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“I too would like to see the books. A line by line accounting of all income and all expense. Legal and professional fees paid to individuals and corporations. Nothing to hide, nothing to lose from full disclosure.”


Bare with me a minute.

I belong to the NFPA. As a member I do not "tell" them how to spend their money. Yes I am pissed that they send me a catalog every other day( with my dues money ), but I do not have to join.

I "joined" for the credibility and knowledge benefits.

What gives anyone the right to "demand" anything? The people who join (this or any other org) do so for the recognition and benefits.

Every org has people who make money. (look at the RedCross)

If I were to join I do not care if the money is spent at the race track as long as the org is credible.

Mike P.

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Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Mike P,


What exactly would make you think you are entitled to seeing financial statement just because you sent Nick $289 for member dues.

To my knowledge there is no law that a non profit organization has to disclose any financial information to non members, or members for all that matters.

Maybe you are thinking of a charitable organization? They are required to disclose to the general public.

Either way, you are getting your monies worth out of them, so who cares if they spent your due money no hookers! ![icon_biggrin.gif](upload://iKNGSw3qcRIEmXySa8gItY6Gczg.gif)

Joe Myers

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Originally Posted By: jfarsetta
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Let’s clear the air with regard to Jim Morrison of MA.


He's a dyed in the wool ASHI guy. Very involved inthe local or regional chapter. Weren't you chapter president at one time, Jim? Oh, well... He's inherited his Daddy's well established HI org, or is at least an employee. Probably incapable of doint it on his own. No balls to strike out. Likes to play it safe. Which is why he likes to pick on NACHI; we give him carte blanche to post this crap. Shame on us. Hell, ASHI stifles its own members on its own board!

He has a problem with NACHI.

He is egotistical, apparently well educated, and his strings are well hidden from view.

In short, aside from his intellect, he is little more than a child and a puppet. He was sent to this BB to stir the pot, and cause dissent. ![icon_exclaim.gif](upload://kW92MliyHA8ygoXI0UsgtBSn4ZO.gif)

Jim,. Take a hint. Whatever you thought you would accomplish here, had the exact opposite reaction from NACHI rank and file. Many of us couldnt agree what to serve each other at a dinner party, and opinions differ on almost EVERYTHING around here. But, there is apparently one thing we've agreed on; you, sir have zero credibility and are viewed by many as little more than a pimple on NACHI's backside.

You, sir, are precisely what is wrong with this board. You are a non-menber, know nothing, that NACHI allows to spew crap, rumour, and innuendo; all in the name of "protecting us".

Here's a (repeat) bit of advice: Go away. We've grown tired of you. Your accusations are baseless. If I were NIck, I'd sue your a$%.

Go back to the Borg. You know, the mindless drones at your controller (ASHI). While you're at it, spend some more money on branding. Don't forget to ask ASHI how they're spending it, either. "Marketing programs", consultants, and "the ASHI Experience" doesn't count as answers. I want a full accounting. In fact, every ASHI member is a fool for following the program blindly, without full disclosure and a full accounting. I want to know where the money goes! After all, as a non-menber, I should be entitles, and any ASHI-drone who doesnt take my advice needs me to save them... Now, OPEN THOSE BOOKS!

I'll hold my breath...

--
Joe Farsetta

Illigitimi Non Carborundum
"Dont let the bastards grind you down..."

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Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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Ouch! So Mr. Jim is a ashi man. It suprises me on how every board I go to it is always the ashi people who respect everyone else less. Or so it seems lately. I wonder what the folks at ashi would say about all the stirring of trouble on here. Seems to bring them down and look bad. My thoughts is that nick should read this thread and sit back and enjoy,be proud and laugh. go nachi!



I want to stop reading so bad but the suspense is killing me!

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Originally Posted By: Guest
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Hey Joe, Why?d you have to go and bring my Daddy into this? He is a magnificent father and a giant of a man. It isn?t his fault my mother made him hire me.


But all kidding aside. I have made two regrettable and sizable mistakes here recently for which I?d like to apologize.
First: There are a few people out there with whom I have had private email conversations over the past few months, and doubtlessle many others whom I have offended. This conversation quickly took a downward spiral into ugliness and I am embarrassed and truly sorry for the large part I played in it. I wish I had exercised more restraint.

Second, I believe everything I wrote about Nick and NACHI are true, but my mistake was in thinking it would bother the members. Nothing I said was news (in fact nobody has denied any part of it), it?s just that you don?t care. I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around how that can be possible, but it only proves I?m not as smart as I think I am. You guys are happy, and I have no business interfering with that. I am humbly and sincerely sorry for troubling you this way and assure you all it won?t happen again. I?m a slow learner, but it?s finally clear to me that we have nothing to offer each other.

Good Luck,

Jim Morrison
Lancaster, MA

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Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Jim M,


Uh, yeah, ok.

Was that before or after you decided to go post those smug comments on another forum? Then you come back here posting some more smug comments, as if you had any intention at all to even try to get along with our association, or its members. Nice try Jim.

There are many here, besides myself, that don't believe you ever had any intention of getting along with our members, or joining our association. Smug people like yourself just come over to play with us, so you can rationalize your reasons for not belonging and not getting along with our members.

You have accomplished that, so now you can go back and sit around with your "friends" and have a good laugh.

Joe Myers

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Originally Posted By: rpalac
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Hard day playing in the sand box Jim?


The other kid's keep picking on you?

The cat cover you up like do-do again?

Oh Well......Maybe you are sincere or maybe just miffed that we are as loyal and un-provoked over what you see as a scheme.

In either case it's kind of neat that you pointed out issues that exist in every org including your own and people found the good in it.
(Maybe your a plant by Nick to feel things out......)

By the way, if Nick used the cash for Hookers as Joe pointed out, can I see the pictures? What a forum that would make...

Well I guess we all learn a little form every thing. And maybe you thought you were doing the right thing but just went about it the wrong way. I myself am happy that the members here have a good feeling of success in the future of NACHI as an organization. The proof inn the pudding is all the new items (ie. training, HVAC, Plumbing, Electrical, continuing ed, consultations, business referral,etc, etc,.,..) that are continually being made available to us. That's what we want and that's what makes it worth it for us to belong. (Business tip-instead of going to other sites to put down competition) . Does any other organization equal what NACHI has to offer it's members. Gee, even as a non-member you get a great deal of interaction on the home page with information much less the ability to post openly in a professional forum.

Nick I'm sure thanks you for boosting his ego and smiles knowing he has so many loyal members. We all thank you for your witty way of asking about finances (not very well done at all)......I'm sure you might shy away and then come back but as always everyone is welcome for constructive and helpful information. Constructive not destructive.

I guess maybe you would like to join now and try to undermine from within or just learn what your org can do better to catch up. It's easy...listen to the members and give them what they want and need. Don't try taking dollars from them like some two bit flim-flam artist in a modern tech world .....but that's your choice. Reap what you sew.

Bob P.

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Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Joe


You misread my post. I was trying to defend Nick not attack him.

Mike P.

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Originally Posted By: dvalley
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Wow…This is better than watching WWW on Sundays!

–
David Valley


MAB Member


Massachusetts Certified Home Inspections
http://www.masscertified.com

"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."
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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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David, you don’t really watch thatstuff do you

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Originally Posted By: jmyers
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Mike P,


Sorry, my bust! ![icon_sad.gif](upload://nMBtKsE7kuDHGvTX96IWpBt1rTb.gif)

Why is it, just when it starts getting fun, they leave?

Joe Myers