Cause and effect

Originally Posted By: jpulley
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Alright Gentlemen,


One more duh-umb question that you all may have just the answer to.
Scrooching around in these attics on my knees and shins are not doing those particular points on my anatomy any good at all.
I was considering a set of knee/shin guards from a dirt bike store, but I am wondering if anyone of you have a better idea.
If you do, FESS UP! I'm getting tired of feeling like the bad guy in a Shirley Temple movie. (the one that always got kicked in the shins)

Thanx,

J.R. Pulley


Originally Posted By: dedwards
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I wear knee pads and elbow pads in attics and crawlspaces. Works very well, especially when the crawlspace is littered with rocks, broken bricks, nails, glass and thousands of other nasty things Ive seen. I got my knee pads at the the big Orange store but I went to the sports section of Target and got some good elbow pads for skateboards. They are hard capped and washable. They encircle your entire arm so they don’t shift around on you and have saved many a sore elbow. I for one don’t give a large rodent’s rear end what I look like. My comfort and saving my joints is more important.


Originally Posted By: Joe Smith (For real)
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Right idea Doug, knee & elbow pads as I have found many a nail/splinter in my inspections.


You can find them at any building supply or sports stores Wal-Mart etc.. I get mine at Harbor freight as they are on sale quite often. But get the better grades as you'll pay dearly for the lower quality ones.


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Originally Posted By: Brian A. Goodman
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I use a pair of “Gorilla” kneepads now, they’re pretty good and not too pricey. Sears has them here. When I did carpentry I wore a pair of catcher’s shin gaurds if I had to be on my knees a lot. Hard shell, good padding, adjustable, and very quick on and off with the little catches they have.


Originally Posted By: Guest
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Sissies.


Originally Posted By: Brian A. Goodman
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Chad Fabry wrote:
Sissies.


Now just because your ole' lady has you crawling often enough to develop callouses on your knees.... ![icon_mrgreen.gif](upload://tbe1CncrrOs48cXpHvziOT8r0T3.gif)


Originally Posted By: Guest
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What’s your point?


Originally Posted By: dfrend
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Chad critcizing? icon_eek.gif



Daniel R Frend


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Originally Posted By: mrose
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Chad,


Why would you criticize someone for promoting their own safety? You may be sitting too close to the microwave.


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Mike Rose
Cornerstone Home Inspection Co. LLC
Lawrenceville, GA

www.cornerstonehomeinspect.com

Originally Posted By: Guest
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For God’s sake,



That was humor between Brian and I. He got it and his reply indicates he got it. Sorry I got yer knickers in a wad.


As for being critical. I am. I've been around long enough to understand motive and reality. When I notice something is out of whack I look for the reason. If a price is too low, if one of my children is acting unusual, or if someone is just too darned friendly or adversarial..I view all those critically and gather facts so that I may be able to form an opinion based on fact rather than emotion or blind loyalty.
All of us should endeavor to be critical thinkers. I'm not very good at it yet, but I'm making an effort.

Kant's lifelong approach to philosophy which distinguishes between different perspectives and then uses such distinctions to settle otherwise unresolvable disputes. The Critical approach is not primarily negative, but is an attempt to adjudicate quarrels by showing the ways in which both sides have a measure of validity, once their perspective is properly understood. Kant's system of Critical philosophy emphasizes the importance of examining the structure and limitations of reason itself.
www.hkbu.edu.hk/~ppp/ksp1/KSPglos.html

"Characterized by careful judgment "

characterized by careful evaluation and judgment; "a critical reading"; "a critical dissertation"; "a critical analysis of Melville's writings"
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn

1. critical (vs. uncritical) -- (marked by a tendency to find and call attention to errors and flaws; "a critical attitude")


Originally Posted By: jburkeson
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Chad Fabry wrote:
As for being critical. I am. I've been around long enough to understand motive and reality. When I notice something is out of whack I look for the reason. If a price is too low, if one of my children is acting unusual, or if someone is just too darned friendly or adversarial..I view all those critically and gather facts so that I may be able to form an opinion based on fact rather than emotion or blind loyalty.
All of us should endeavor to be critical thinkers. I'm not very good at it yet, but I'm making an effort.

Kant's lifelong approach to philosophy which distinguishes between different perspectives and then uses such distinctions to settle otherwise unresolvable disputes. The Critical approach is not primarily negative, but is an attempt to adjudicate quarrels by showing the ways in which both sides have a measure of validity, once their perspective is properly understood. Kant's system of Critical philosophy emphasizes the importance of examining the structure and limitations of reason itself.
www.hkbu.edu.hk/~ppp/ksp1/KSPglos.html


Chad,

Fascinating, but of course there are philosophers like Thomas Hobbes who valued social contract above critical approach to adjudicate quarrels.

It was Hobbes who described men in a state of nature, that is a state without civil government, are in a war of all against all in which life is hardly worth living. The way out of this desperate state is to make a social contract and establish the state to keep peace and order. Reason, so it seems for Hobbes, is not about making certain rights universal or weighing the validity of an argument, it is about finding terms of coexistence among people who are drawn to violence by their conflicting passions.

Chad, I truly enjoy these forays into the existential ether, it is a shame that in most cases application has not followed intellect. ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)

Moral and Political Philosophy - Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679)


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Joseph Burkeson, RPI (Hooperette)

?Anyone who has proclaimed violence his method inexorably must choose lying as his principle.?
~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Originally Posted By: mrose
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Chad,


I seems Mr. Burkeson has suggested in a most eloquent fashion that you might be full of crap.


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Mike Rose
Cornerstone Home Inspection Co. LLC
Lawrenceville, GA

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Originally Posted By: Guest
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I seemed like that to me as well, Mike.


Joe's a smart guy, there's no denying it and it's both entertaining and educational every time we discuss anything.

One thing for sure there's no shortage of philospohers to quote.

So then, soft shell knee pads or hard shell. That's the question of the day.
I like the soft, the hard ones make my pants scrunch up.


Originally Posted By: jburkeson
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mrose wrote:
Chad,

I seems Mr. Burkeson has suggested in a most eloquent fashion that you might be full of crap.


Mike,

Thanks for the vote of confidence and team spirit, but Chad should not hang alone here, as I too have fallen short on the application of moral and political philosophy, hence the need for the Mr. Smiley ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif) in my post, guess the attempt at humor was too dry.

Chad Fabry wrote:
So then, soft shell knee pads or hard shell. That's the question of the day.
I like the soft, the hard ones make my pants scrunch up.


Hard Shell, of course.


--
Joseph Burkeson, RPI (Hooperette)

?Anyone who has proclaimed violence his method inexorably must choose lying as his principle.?
~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Originally Posted By: Guest
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I took it in the intended spirit Joe.


Originally Posted By: mrose
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Chad,


My compliments on your website.


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Mike Rose
Cornerstone Home Inspection Co. LLC
Lawrenceville, GA

www.cornerstonehomeinspect.com

Originally Posted By: Guest
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Thanks Mike,


Mike Brown @ DevWave built it for me. It was reasonable and painless for a non geek like me. He asked me some questions had me write some text and then it was all done.

So far, response has been good and I've pulled a few inspections off the net from the site. I'm very satisfied.

mike@devwave.com Tell him I sent you and that want my referral fee applied to any of your purchases. I wouldn't feel right about taking the money to promote it. I promote it because it's a good company to business with.


Originally Posted By: Brian A. Goodman
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I prefer Diogenes (Greek, c.350 BC). Just to prove he didn’t care what anyone thought he sometimes masturbated in the public market place. icon_mrgreen.gif


No, I didn't make that up.


Originally Posted By: dedwards
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I guess its our own fault…started off talking about kneepads and elbow pads and somehow Brian got sorta sidetracked


Originally Posted By: dfrend
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I actually use my spare set of fire gear in my truck to crawl around in. Good leather padding for abbrasion protects and it kkeps me realtively clean.



Daniel R Frend


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The Home Inspector Store


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