I am sure he joined the ACHI which appears to be against licensing…It’s so secretive you don’t really know!!
Roy:
Spoke with BC, just a few minutes ago. Before licensing/regs came into play, they estimated about 400+ HI’s. Only approximately 300 were working/licensed at March 1, 2009, the day regulations took effect. It’s now 22 months later and there are 392 licensed HI’s in BC.
Doesn’t sound like a large influx to me!! They haven’t even returned to the originally estimated #'s that were practicing pre-licensing. Good licensing and regs will improve the overall field. Better inspectors will self-improve and rise above the rest.
You can’t always listen to the bluster of some on these boards!
BTW, I almost forgot to ask the BC gov rep before ending our conversation but one of the the things they were and are still are very concerned about is the conflict of interest with realtors recommending HI’s…Interesting!!
Thanks Brian.
Gee I think you are seeing something I have not seen,
No where have I seen where Ray or ACHI are against licensing.
I have to think you have missed many posts where both have talked about grandfathering and How All Canadian inspectors need to be Protected.
They both do not feel a person who is making a living should be ostracized.
They like me are against the closed door attitude of a very few leaders.
I have not seen where ACHI have been secretive ,
They are the in the Group who have asked many questions with very few answers.
If these questions had not been asked the Canadian home inspectors would not have found out just what is going on behind closed doors.
As N example we would not know how there has been well over $2,000,000;00~ on Canadian Government money spent by this group.
It looks to me like we all need ACHI and others who have the interest of all Canadian Home Inspectors in their hearts.
ACHI is member funded and has only been around for about one year .
They sure have got the other associations attention many are ridiculing ACHI when it would be a lot smarter if they cleaned up their own act and improved their attitude to wards Homies
Great so glad for BC Unfortunatly I guess you have not seen the Many post’s on the NACHI site where Licensing has not help and in most cases lowered prices increased Numbers of HOMIES .
Many do not understand their are two sections to the NACHI forum .
#One ( Open to all ) with some good information but lots of BLUSTER as you say . and #two for members only with many facts ,Information, and information that is not for the public to see.
It is considerably larger then the public section.
This of course means the public just get to see some posts.
Brian
You know squat and until such time as I make it your business - it is none of your business. So speculate all you want, thats what you do best.
Licencing does not weed out incompetence, the market will do that. For you to continually suggest licencing is a miracle pill is baloney. For you to sit and chastise is strange given you belong to no associations.
Thanks for the INFO. Just got to thinking it seems to me like Many politicians and directors some times slant what they say to get their message out .
I talked to a BC home Inspector and he feels things are not going as well as some would say.
There seems to be as much infighting in BC as Ontario.
It would be interesting if ACHI had over $2,000,000;00 to spend of government money .
They way they are advancing and coming out with sensible ideas in such a short time it is astounding.
Remember there are three sides or more to every story .
I think it is impossible to get the truth .
"When I pay a mechanic $60 to $100 per hour I want to make sure they are licensed, accredited, up to date in their field. A uniform licensing scheme for certified trades within each province (plus the cross-Canada Red Seal Program) does that."
Thank you, Brian, for your blanket endorsement of the idea of getting our industry recognized as a trade. I knew you would come around sooner or later! Your ACHI membership is waiting . . . . . 
The ALLIANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS is interested in promoting our industry and EVERY inspector in it. 2011 will be the start of a new year.
JOIN US AT;
http://www.theachi.org
Brian you said a mouth full.
When I pay a mechanic $60 to $100 per hour I want to make sure they are licensed, accredited, up to date in their field. A uniform licensing scheme for certified trades within each province (plus the cross-Canada Red Seal Program) does that.
I do not get the “red seal” idea,is it like blue chip stock ?
You are almost on board, drop the 1 error of your ways " Licensing " and George will hand you himself that " red seal of ACHI approval."
Its funny George , now he will back peddle his " trade " statement I bet.
Think the light bulbs will finally start to click on??
Its not that its imposable to get to the truth Roy.
Its with all the lies and deception out there its hard for them to hear the truth.
Again what more do you need?
Free education WHMIS Online Training
, grandfathering, A professional recognized trade, backed by a trade-union able to help you cut down on , health benefits, tools vendors discount IMBOTEC, E&O and liability insurance discount, a lobbing arm to get your views heard to the ones that can do really do something and make your voices heard in this HI industry, and will be built and driven by its members.
So with whats out there now in Canada for HI’S, and the plains for the future from Brian MacN. licensing and regulation idea’s.
Is it not time to start to ask yourself the real question?
CAN ACHI BUILD THAT POSITIVE HOME WE NEED.
The answer is yes.
Look what it has done in so little time.
Look at the organization backing its ideas.
Look what it can do for the industry as a whole.
Not bad so far.
Or wait for Brian’s idea of the future to be a realty.
As you know George,
Brian is referring to a home inspector trade as being compulsory & certified much like a plumber has to be to practice.
And that requires much more than 20 inspections to be recognized as a professional or professional tradesmen to practice;-)…
Robert,
Certified tradesmen in Ontario get the red seal when requirements are satisfied.
Having a red seal means that you have pass the Certificate of Qualification proctored exam and that you can practice in any provinces within Canada much like being a National Certificate Holder (NCH).
Those requirements are very demanding and require more than 20 inspections for a home inspector to be recognized as a professional or professional tradesman…
I’ve posted the requirements to become a certified plumber in Ontario on another tread and they are quite extensive.
If you didn’t read them, let me know and I will repost them.
Cheers,
What has your last statement got to do about anything? It’s a free country! Just like to hear yourself?
I have been in the HI industry part or full time for 26 years now. In 1993, I met with NS Consumer and Corporate Affairs twice to encourage HI regulation but there was no will nor backbone to approach the issue…So sad! Maybe I have an opinion or two!
The Three Amigos seem to have extremely short memories…Here’s something from a post of mine (dated 10/20/10…over 2 months ago) in response to post of George’s:
George:
“Canadian Inspectors deserve better.”
Brian:
“Yepp!! They deserve a national standard, similar to the Red Seal program for trades, recognized by all jurisdictions!”
Where have you guys been??? From memory, I have spoken of this as far back as 1.5 years ago and remember trading posts with Roy on this subject then.
Before you folks try defaming me…read the past!
Thank you Marcel.
Looking back now at my statement it was a demeaning thoughtless juster.
Thank you for that definition Marcel, I did not know.
I promise I will take my time to give comments on posts in the new year.
He does frustrate me with is views and narrow opinions about how HE thinks Canada should follow AMERICA’S lead in regulation and licensing.
There are other venues to follow.
Again Residential Building Inspection being recognized as a trade will only increase home inspection industrys chances of being evenly carried across Canada without to much reinterpretation by the provinces.
Also having the Teamsters Union behind ACHI and the Home Inspection industry in Canada will give it weight, validity, and assurances that Canada all the provinces want to see.
I am happy to here him voice his opinion on looking at HI as a trade.
So true, Bill! But he’s presently being led by TWO of THREE AMIGOS who can’t see past their own aspirations. He is a thinking man and will probably soon see past the Bluster…and the INACHI “brotherhood”:twisted::mrgreen::roll:!
Brian MacN.
George:
“Canadian Inspectors deserve better.”
yes they do Brian. ACHI will carny it there.
Brian:
“Yepp!! They deserve a national standard, similar to the Red Seal program for trades, recognized by all jurisdictions!”
OK the idea is strong but you are putting it to far ahead of a simple interpretation that all can agree upon first, before you stride for red-seal approval.
So trades were firstly interpreted and ideas honed before the red-seal came along Brian.
Yes its sound and great but one step at a time please.
Recognize it as a trade first.
Also Brian ,you get more flies with honey than with the vinegar.
You see ACHI as viable for you say so yourself.
Where have YOU BEEN in aiding George and Raymond?
They are saying everything you are saying only have another route ( road ) to get to the same destination.
Do you not read THEIR POST’S?
You see and hold on to the past Brian, and voice your opinions through others eyes on you. The ones you associate with.( to me)
We all wish to improve the HI industry and weed out the mills and all the harm they are doing to a great professional trade and Canada as a whole.
Americanized for prophet and that’s all they are.
Where have you guys been??? From memory, I have spoken of this as far back as 1.5 years ago and remember trading posts with Roy on this subject then.
Before you folks try defaming me…read the past!
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Strange how some think their way is the only way.
Did not work at whistler and now well over $2,000,000;00 of tax payers money spent on the NCA .
Why should we think it is the only way.
Gee how Brian gets upset with those who are free thinkers .
At least we have an open mind , just love the insults given none stop by the closed minded group.
We get called the 3 stooges ,Idiots,3 amigos ,and other not so nice names.
Brian my aspirations are to try and help our Homies and our industry get what is best for all.
I do not have a closed door mind or attitude.
Remember Whistler
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4935
Bill has a big anouncement comming soon
http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost.php?p=166560&postcount=103
Brian
Your tongue is tripping you up again, its is most disturbing to see you pontificate, something you do very well when you are not busy promoting yourself. But lets remember it is you who is the hypocrite because you continually tell everyone what high standards you hold and expect them to hold but at the end of the day you belong to no associations.
Self defeating Brian, perhaps you might gain the credibility you so desperately seek by putting your money where your mouth is.
People think differently then you do you are in the minority, and as such your voice is irrelevant, even more so in Ontario and for that matter everywhere else in this country.