Meeker this is for you; Reduce TPR Valve

After you brought that post up two weeks ago, I have been looking and looking on all 4 point inspections I have completed. After seeing the third one this week I have to say something needs to be done, Lol just starting another topic for discussion:mrgreen:

Yeppers TOTAL FAIL. Pe prepared for pissed client. Good news it is normally a cheap fix :slight_smile:

The insurance companies should have to pay for these inspections.

Even though I know I would never get another one ever because I would not work at their rates :slight_smile:

Client pays you for doing your job and will now hate you :frowning:

That dangling Romex s going to be a problem as well…

Oh yeah, already let the client know about the wire. She’s real nice so she didn’t take my head off on neither.

Just wait till they talk to the agency and then the folks that give her prices. That is normally when they show their a s s es

It’s not only reduced, it is also trapped (piped upward), which may be a bigger problem.

This was a fun 4 point inspection. From issues with the roof to the electric. After delivering all the bad news, the client actually thanked me for being honest and upfront with him.

We are out here to do a job. Even though we have to deliver bad news to the client. I rather piss the client off right then and there, then be called out later when its claim time.

I personally have not YET heard of that happening.

There’s a first for everything. You never know.

Yep but I doubt we will ever see it happen :frowning:

In the last few weeks have heard homeowners say in regards to potential issues like wind rated garage doors , FPE panels , and other issues that County inspectors give it the ok along with HVAC contractors , electricians etc. It gets really difficult to explain to some people that while some things may meet code at the time of installation or even the ambiguous “Hurricane Rated” term Insurance rules the world so what they said is null and void. Just today a client said but the county inspector said my garage door is hurricane rated. Sure it’s rated but for only wind and the sticker even says so. It’s always a battle of wits with somebody.

Shawn !
What is your narrative for this ?

The pipe looks bent but I didn’t test the valve so I dunno

I personally know of one case where an inspection company replaced a roof - they gave a painted shingle roof 10 years and leaked one month after the client moved in and another where they said the roof was not leaking on a roof certification when my report said it was. They had to repair that roof. Neither went as far as to have an insurance claim

Next time you change your water heater…pull a permit and we won’t have to have this conversation! :wink:

Yeah because everyone wants to and has the money to give the Gov to do a simple job…

so you don’t have to pull permits to do “simple jobs” :o

Shawn, I personally think it’s going to start happening more and more

You do but it sucks in my personal opinion. I think people should be able to do what theey want to their own property. I also thinks if it kills them, someone else or damages their property that is their problem as well. How many homeowners. even more so how many know it all inspectors do you think pull permits when they do stuff in their own house. The hassel alone make it a no go for the gov.

I would like to block in my window NOT expand the currently open hole and as a g.c. and home owner I still have to have a f-ing architect or engineer sign off on what I want to do, because it is an exterior wall. Nothing I could do to fill it would make it less strong than it is with it’ 1960 crank windows.

OK now start telling me how THE PEOPLE need to be PROTECTED from themselves. wa wa wa…

I personally would be happy if the gov got out of damn near all our personal biz and stopped sending billions of dollars to other Countries. Then maybe folks her could benefit from our gov spending on things we need like Infrastructure, Police, fire, paramedics etc…F the whole rest of the world as far as I am concerned until we become a Super Power and the most successful Country in the world. But hey that just me I am sure you Socialists and Commies around here will never allow that to happen

I saw what you did without a permit Mike! he he

The county permit police has a special drone they have programed to fly over you weekly.

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