Originally Posted By: Mike O’Handley
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You have an amazing capacity for spewing poison. Do you need to take a special anti-venom every morning to prevent it from overwhelming your system? Such bitterness! Since you knew the thread was going to be deleted anyway, why didn't you just debate the person? It wasn't like anyone would have bothered to delete what you'd posted? Well, at least not until the 24 hours were up, anyway. ![eusa_naughty.gif](upload://nYl3dmRmAIH81yCdH9V96akYnNa.gif)
Seriously, it sounds like this came from Flame 'n Blame. In truth, I don't know whether it did or not, because I don't spend a lot of time reading the posts thee before I delete them. I have read, and even participated in, a few of them, but by and large I don't make it a priority and I don't remember reading this one. It could have been there. Don't know. Don't care.
What is so stultifying about your "rant" is that you could actually read that paragraph and completely miss the meaning of the first three sentences. If you'd just bothered to allow yourself to comprehend them, you might have realized that the author was embracing newcomers to the profession, only asking them to have a little more humility and to listen to those who're teaching them, instead of making so much noise about how much they know that they miss the message entirely. The premise being that, newcomers to the business, no matter how experienced they 'think' they are, should be a little more respectful when dealing with those who're more experienced at 'this' business and who've been doing it far longer.
I'm guessing that his criticism isn't so much about NACHI, as it is about some of the folks who are in NACHI because they are bitter about not being accepted immediately as equals in ASHI, without proving themselves through numbers of inspections completed, testing and peer review of their work first. That does seem to be the general theme running through some of the ASHI flaming done here, and unfortunately it colors one's perception of NACHI.
I would ask you, what's wrong with being a little humble and listening to those more experienced than we are? Is there another way to learn? The books we read, the educational television and radio programs we watch and listen to are all authored by folks who are, for the most part, more experienced in their fields than others. Don't other professionals besides home inspectors expect the same thing?
Isn't a second year resident at a local hospital subject to evaluation by his or her department head? Isn't he or she going to be evaluated on the ability to listen and learn from that more seasoned professional? Aren't rookie cops required to ride with a more experienced officer for months before they are allowed to patrol on their own. Aren't rookie pilots required to fly second seat for a set number of hours before they are allowed to take over the airliner. Would you trust your life to that just-soloed-and-graduated from flight-school rookie?
Maybe that is what the author is saying. Maybe the message here is stop making so much noise about how the other classroom is treated differently by its teacher and concentrate on being the best that you can be in 'this' classroom. Dwelling on the other only distracts you from your goals, fuels contentiousness and makes NACHI appear to have a mob mentality to the detriment of its members.
There're a lot of experienced and intelligent inspectors here whom I respect, that are helping those newer to the profession - as there are on the ASHI site, the NAHI site, my site, Brian's and others. It is, after all, a teaching medium. The difference that you have here, is that this board, unlike the ASHI board, is wide open to public scrutiny and this is a professional organization's site - not a webzine like Brian's and mine are.
Folks here should ask themselves why it is that they are derided by other inspectors on other sites. Could it be that there is something going on over here that turns others off, besides the simple fact that your's is a new organization? After all, AII is also new in comparison to ASHI, but you very rarely read criticism of AII on other boards.
Ask yourself too, whether you want the folks who're going to be hiring you to miss the fact that these experienced folks are doing their best to ensure that NACHI can stand shoulder to shoulder with ASHI, or, do you want them to read one or two posts, shake their heads in disgust at all the vitriol and then go to one of the other organizations' sites where they don't see that kind of pap?
I'm a fair home inspector and I have enough experience in the business to believe that I can probably hold my own with a lot of the more experienced inspectors in the business. Nonetheless, I think I should look just a tad foolish If I were to try and go toe-to-toe with Melvin Chalfin. Don't you? The contempt shown toward some of the old timers in this business by those newer and less experienced does little to impress those who are the target of such attacks and is unbecoming of those who would call themselves professionals. Furthermore, if the person who made this quote is whom I think it is, there is no self-proclaiming going on, he is indeed one of those who was instrumental in the early days of this business in formulating the general standard of care that most home inspectors use today. Many of us do consider him a sort of pooh-bah in the field. Publicly denigrating him here is futile, panders only to the bitter segment and reads like bitter grapes.
Joe, you've made it more than clear to everyone in the business that your feelings were hurt when ASHI wouldn't give you a 'by' to membership and told you you'd have to remain a candidate until you met their standards. That underlying theme seems to simmer just under the surface of a lot of your posts. Well, I have news for you Bud, it isn't all about you. There're lots of others in the business, including myself, that've met the same obstacles, but we didn't allow the bitterness to consume us. Why not let it go and move on before you fret yourself into an early grave with it?
Why make it one's life mission to attack the sanctimony of those more experienced than we are? Let's face it, they're entitled to their sanctimony. Someday Joe, maybe you and I will be too. That is, if we can be successful and remain in the business long enough.
ONE TEAM - ONE FIGHT!!!
Editor, The Inspector's Journal
By the way, Joe. Thanks for hanging out over at TIJ. Hopefully, even you
will, hopefully, be able to glean something useful there.