Im not sure how many of you have completed insurance inspections or reinspections. I did participate in the origional Citizen’s pilot program, earning 50$ per inspection. My average was 10 per day. This was last year over the holidays. Most of my neighbors were facing foreclosure and many former associates were in bankrupcy. Me, I was working my *** off making 500$ a day. Unfortunately, I had to bow out, in order to maintain my own book of business, but there was never a shortage of work. This may not be for everyone, but it will create work for those who want it. Also, for those in the insurance inspection business… Have you had any of your large accounts slammed with re-inspections yet? Im not one of those guys out there selling bogus inspections, but How many can you defend/argue before the agency simply can’t deal with the headache. There is a list of Preferred vendors who will not get reinspected. How long do you think it will take before agents only use companies on that list to avoid the drama with the re-inspections. I dont know about the rest of you, but Im gonna be on that list!
· Q1. I am already an InterNACHI member. Am I automatically considered a member of Florida InterNACHI?
· A. NO. This is a State Association – not a local chapter. You must take and pass one of the proctored exams to be Florida InterNACHI certified in the inspection field of you choice
Taken right from the Florida NACHI website…so who is right Zoe or Joe? Or whichever one Nick wants to be right. I asked to see the INACHI SOP…I knew that would be a fat chance…But it was worth a shot…O well…
Well said and thanks for all your hard work. You are putting it out there and its not mandatory…so I guess its optional. I never dismiss something without seeing what it has to offer…thats just me.
I can’t speak for Joe but back to the IRS thing you read backwards. Let me write it out, perhaps it will be clearer:
Furnishing particular information and specialized individual services to members through publishing and other means to effect economies in business operations may be performing particular services; but educating members on how to improve their business results is not.… a particular service that is not an exempt activity under the Code.
The red is under “Examples”
The Examples are examples of things that are not particular services that are not exempt.
Educating members is not performing particular services that are not exempt.
You read it backwards. LOL! Actually, you assumed the “not” at the end of your example referred to “not exempt” when it refers to being a particular service. I’ll give you some slack, it could be misread by a layman.
Like I said Nick I wasn’t insinuating ANYTHING about Zoes husband. I don’t care if you follow 501©6…As I have said before. I do not want to see ANYTHING negative to happen to NACHI and the organization. Do as you like. I just actually really do like reading stuff like that, I find it interesting. You offer one hell of an educational site, there is no doubt about that. I find it very rewarding. Its your antics to get every Tom Dick and Sally in the profession without them having any REAL qualifications and CHEAPENING our profession that get to me. Your AAA school of lack uneducated professionals that you are trying to flood the market with so you can get your numbers up is what upsets me…as I have said time and again…
Read all the IRS examples you gave and it will become clear that the “not” at the end of each is referring to “not being a particular service that doesn’t qualify for exemption” like running a parking lot (fourth example).
You read it wrong.
You can’t speak for Joe?..I thought he was the one that watches over this stuff? To make sure things are nice and legal. Maybe I am wrong. But if Joe is the one who interprets and we just ignore it, then why have Joe and his wisdom and ESOP at all?
You give me too much credit. I don’t hold a loaded gun to anyone’s head and force them to quit their job and make a big life decision, change careers, and open a home inspection business. I don’t hold a loaded gun to anyone’s head at the DBPR and force them issue a license. I don’t hold a loaded gun to anyone’s head and force them to join InterNACHI.
All we do is help members’ businesses. We make sure that the help we offer is worth many, many, many, many more times the $289 dues. InterNACHI’s success can be attributed to our members’ basic math skills. Membership in InterNACHI is a no-brainer for any businessman with an IQ over 70.
**Performing Particular Services - Business League (Internal Revenue Code Section 501©(6))
**An organization’s performance of particular services for its members or others is not an exempt activity under Code section 501©(6). Although such activities do not alone preclude exemption, an organization engaged primarily in performing particular services is not exempt under section 501©(6).
Examples:
- Advertising that carries the names of members may be performing particular services; but promoting the business of an industry by encouraging the use of its products is not.
- Furnishing particular information and specialized individual services to members through publishing and other means to effect economies in business operations may be performing particular services; but educating members on how to improve their business results is not.
- Operating a multiple listing service for members of a real estate involves performing particular services.
- Operating parking lots for members’ customers may be performing particular services, but providing parking as part of a plan to promote patronage of businesses in an area may not be.
- Providing insurance coverage often involves performing particular services. Similarly, negotiating discounted healthcare or similar services for members and/or nonmembers and providing related services may be performing particular services.
http://www.irs.gov/charities/nonprof…169494,00.html
I see it as the green is legal and the red is NOT proper. Once again…OK I will concede that you got me…because it does not matter. I LIKE NACHI and its education and do NOT want to see anything POOR happen to it…as I have said time and again…
Forgive me for sounding a bit laim on this subject I have not had much time to visit this message board for a few weeks.
What qualifications do we need to have to be doing Inspections for Citizens Insurance Inspections.
achomeinspections@yahoo.com
http://www.andyseagleeyehomeinspections.com
Russell writes:
I concede that the reason you misread the IRS site was because of the double negative, which is a bit confusing when you first look at it. But you did read it wrong and InterNACHI is not jeaopardizing its status by educating its members on how to improve their business results.
Re-inspections or retail inspections?
Agree 100% as I have said in the past. But you claim to be MORE than the other organizations and yet you get pushed around at legislation time, and push poor agendas when it comes to getting idiots licensed. See what you fail to see is that HOME INSPECTORS, if we were all PROFESSIONAL then it would be no problem getting $500 for a condo. But you want people who can’t tell a TPR from a Hose Bib…No offense Mike…You DON’T care and place unprofessional, untrained, uneducated people in the duty of telling some people how to spend their life savings.
I did not PUT you an a pedestal. YOU DID THAT TO YOURSELF…bragging about this and that. Well you want the pedestal…there it is, I just wish you would stand tall and make us as proud of you and you are of yourself.
I have no control over who enters the industry in unlicensed states and essentially no control over who enters the industry in licensed states (like Florida) due to the low requirements adopted by licensed states. You can’t hang that on me. I can’t (by law) even control who joins InterNACHI.
I AM responsible for what education we offer OUR members, once they join. Is the education robust? Are the disincentives removed for taking this education? Is the education free? Is the education conveniently online? Is the education approved and accredited?
Of course the answers to all these questions are “Yes.” We’re doing our job to improve the profession… more than any other school, government agency or organization.
Maybe I am wrong and take it way more serious than I should. Some young coupleis spending all they have and going into debt for the next 30 years…BASED ON WHAT I TELL THEM. They can then decide from there. Maybe you look at it differently, but its a very serious profession to me…your lack of being serious about your 1 failed student shows me different.
Re-inspections
I totally disagree. Your idiot schools make it so easy for a person to get the certifications for licensing. Although it is a LAW…which you love to mention, and I will say it again. Just because its a LAW does not make it right, moral or just…You have no control over the industry, but you have absolute supreme being control of NACHI…and yet you use it to start organizations which go against your OWN SOP…to get these idiots in the “profession” to then just lower the standards. Maybe thats OK for you, its just OK with me and I will fight tooth and nail for what I think is right and you will keep producing numbers without regard to anything but yourself…I guess different strokes for different folks.
as of today…contractors,engineers,architects only. HI’s will soon be added to the 1802 form, so it only makes sense that citizens would follow suit.
Love ya St. Nick…Fat boy (me) needs some sleep…work and then a drive to Melbourne tomorrow for some of that low cost, top of the line, out of this world, super duper 4 point and wind mit training…Can’t wait…well worth the 4 hour drive!
And Thank You Nick.
I Have learned so much from Internachi In the short time that I have been A member. I am proud to be A member as what I call. The Best Of The Best. No where can you go to for the education and for the price.
Thank You.
Andy Christel.