Yes, good point.
Based on my observations, all would LIKE to be active.
Some are, because they are established, competent, and successful inspectors. Others are not, because they are not being hired.
I keep hearing the same story over and over. Out of work, became a home inspector.
I wonder how many will be inspectors if the economy recovers?
There’s another question in there also…
How many “inspectors” are working as inspectors, but do not hold a HI license… aka… contractors, handymen, laid off contractors waiting for work, beer money inspectors, inspectors bucking the system, unqualified to get a license inspectors, etc… ???
Yes, in part. Many of the groups you mentioned are part of the numbers of licensed Home Inspectors. Some organization that represent everything from contractors to landscape architects are lobying to be exempt from the State’s already laxs licensing requirements. :shock:
When Licensing started in Florida, I had a conversation with another inspector who’s State had recently gone through licensing.
He said, that the number of Home Inspectors swelled to an unsustainable level when licensing began. However, within a few years the numbers had dropped substantially.
We will see…
For those who think Nick is the Messiah, let me ask, would it be better for NACHI to have 10,000 inspectors in Florida or 1,000? In that simple questions lies the answers to many things…think about it.
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Getting a tad grudge-mental here or so it sounds. You have the same opportunities as anyone else in OUR Country. Want to start you own org.—DO IT.
**InterNACHI has done well creating a pretty good organization with a lot of bells and whistles. It took much time and forethought not to mention finance etc. to put this together and market it correctly. If you want something changed–go for it. Nick and his org. have worked hard to get here and I would guess if I was in the same position I would feel strongly on my accomplishments. It’s easy sometimes to criticize existing than to develop new ideas. Let’s work with InterNACHI and make it better and we all win. **
God Bless America!
Getting a tad grudge-mental here or so it sounds. You have the same opportunities as anyone else in OUR Country. Want to start you own org.—DO IT.
**InterNACHI has done well creating a pretty good organization with a lot of bells and whistles. It took much time and forethought not to mention finance etc. to put this together and market it correctly. If you want something changed–go for it. Nick and his org. have worked hard to get here and I would guess if I was in the same position I would feel strongly on my accomplishments. It’s easy sometimes to criticize existing than to develop new ideas. Let’s work with InterNACHI and make it better and we all win. **
God Bless America!
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I see your point and disagree with it. You and me want it better, Nick wants it bigger. Two totally different directions. I never said NACHI was not a good organization, but it’s nothing as far a credentials go.
Want to see how the scam works…I will give the latest example…free logos! All the logos look the same and in each logo have you noticed the “internachi certified” mark? Who is it really promoting? The inspector or the organization? They are free if you want to wait four months…but for the low low price of $300 ish you move to the front of the line.
So now the logo isn’t free and they have each of you are paying to marketing internachi…brilliant again. You pay to market his cash cow…
Do you not see all of this?
I think the whole profession should be turned over the the contractors, the sooner the better.
I happen to like my logo… See below:p
It is still another great service. The benefits here are so many, if we had only 1000 members it could not be afforded. Nachi does appeal to the masses, it has everything. If you want elite, you need to do that yourself.
I’m neither agreeing nor disagreeing, but why?
You bring up a good point. I think the pink elephant in the room may be that many aren’t contributing to the legislative fund because they don’t whole heartedly agree with it. I think it’s safe to say that most, not all, but most contractors would agree with your statement.
That a productive addition to the dialog.
Home Inspector 101. If unsure what to say, just blame the contractors.
It’s getting old guys!
Then tell Russ what you want, he is charge.
I want love, peace, and chicken grease.
I was just curious as to why Burkeson thinks only contractors should be allowed to inspect. (unless he was being facetious).
Too funny…joe is the biggest pot stirrer in the world! Love the guy, but he will say something he totally disagrees with just to get a rise out of people.
Super guy who loves to stir things up!
Got it. Thanks.
He was, and that is why I(a contractor) stay out of the legislative stuff.
“**Want to see how the scam works…**I will give the latest example…free logos! All the logos look the same and in each logo have you noticed the “internachi certified” mark? Who is it really promoting? The inspector or the organization? They are free if you want to wait four months…but for the low low price of $300 ish you move to the front of the line.”
So now the logo isn’t free and they have each of you are paying to marketing internachi…brilliant again. You pay to market his cash cow…
Do you not see all of this?
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INACHI scam/cash cow according to Russ aledged statement QUOTE??:roll:
We have heard these type of statements from you time and time again. One day you favor INACHI the next time you bad mouth INACHI. One day you praised Nick the next day he is a scam artist. One day you agreed wholehearted with the value of INACHI organization and founder the next day the organization is cash cow. Are you in or are you out? So go figure! How easy is to quit INACHI? Not at all. Just save the membership fee and buy yourself a two nice bottles of STOLI ELIT. Here is an idea: Start your own HI organization maybe you will get “your” INSPECTORs + a few others to join. The LOGO FREE service is a scam?? Yeah, right!. I wonder why John S is so happy with his nice and professional logo as well as other members of INACHI.
INACHI has given its members a lot for their money and will continue to do so. Many of us are proud to be a member of the best Home Inspector’s association in the planet “INACHI”. The benefits that INACHI offers are unmatched by any other organization. How in the world you can ask for INACHI support you when you believe that the organization and Nick is a scam to make NICK rich…and you want people to support your ideas and goals. You want to represent Florida Home Inspectors? With regards to politics I give an “F” = failure. ](*,)
At one point in time I thought to make a substantial donation to support the lobbyist but then I realized with leaders like you that bad mouth our main HI association as well as the founder it was somewhat fishy…for lack of a better words. So, I sit and watch the war of words on the INACHI BB. I think the more you engage the farther the members move away. Keep up the good work and soon you will find yourself along on this crusade. Think about this: How many inspectors in the state of FLORIDA are part time HI, retired and receiving a pension, 2nd job, doing it for the fun, contractors waiting for the economy to get better so they can start building again, looser looking for a quick buck, scam artist taking advantage of the ignorant buyers, just to have a few credential in their resume, on and on and on…………and there are the so call full time HI struggling to make a living and competing with the low ballers HI’s. Remember the W/M increase requirements and more details??? Everybody was saying that “NOW “the cost will double…. Yeah right! Not only the cost of the W/M stay the same but went substantially down if not for free when doing a full inspection…… I always remember the first meeting in Tallahassee to discuss the issues with the HI license. I was there. Where you there??? Guess who was there?? That is right! NICK GROMIKO was there to make his word count on behalf of INACHI and its members. Price is what you pay, Value is what you get! Good day!
John that is the value of the the message board. Each has his own opinion and gets to voice it. I never said NACHI was worthless. I never said I regret being a member. I never said I want to quit.
What I do say is that NACHI is what it is, and nothing more. So when it is said to be more than what it is, I point out my view. It is an organization to try and please the masses. It is exactly how the welfare system started and how politicians get the poor to vote for them. They give you stuff for “free” to get you to bite. Nothing is “free”, it’s all paid for, by our membership dues.
You keep talking about people struggling in the profession. Our fight is the same. To get the profession to be viewed " as a profession" and not a job. I hope people getting into this profession realize many people are getting into debt for 30 years based on what “you the professional home inspector” tell them. This is not a get rich quick scheme or profession, it is one of great responsibility and liability.
Yet time after time, you bash those who volunteer to help the profession and yet you do nothing to make it better yourself. Why not volunteer for something? Why do you just make comments and do nothing? Is it because you time is too valuable and you could really care less about the profession? You just want your slice of cake and do nothing for anyone else?
You tell me something you have done for the profession, even if it was wrong, but something to make a difference.
I was at the meeting in about home inspectors in Orlando and even went to lunch with Nick and Greg Bell that day.
Why was Nick fighting in Talahassee? To ensure all NACHI members will grandfathered in. Was that a good more or a bad move? Depends if you in an area where you struggle to make ends meet.
So in your rant, which I understand because of your ignorance. The question is simple. What have you done to make a difference? I know of nothing, but enlighten me and tell me. If your not part of the solution your part of the problem and if leadership goes unquestioned it will run amok…
I await your enlightening response as to how you do anything to improve the industry.
Maybe I need to articulate a bit more.
What I feel, I am doing is not BASHING, but having an open and honest dialogue. I can see where others disagree and I totally accept that. But maybe if I state my views a little more clear and precise you can see the view I am coming with.
First and foremost, there has never been a person who has done more for the inspection industry than Nick Gromicko. I find the guy very smart, articulate and excellent at surrounding himself with great people and able to lead and see the direction of something before many even know anything is happening. This is NOT a personal attack. It is a profession view of how I perceive things.
To me what he has done is the biggest problem we face in Florida. He has given people alot and now people are on cruise control thinking everything will automatically be taken care of. That is NOT the case and on a daily basis our profession and license comes under attack. Nick has 49 other states and rightfully has to divide his time equally.
We are professional Home Inspectors and our goal (from my eyes) is to provide a professional service that is seen by its consumer as “Professional” and one that demands a professional fee for this service.
NACHI’s goal is to get as many people to become members as possible. The more the merrier! 75,000 inspectors and NACHI members would make Nick smile BIG TIME!
Now how would it make you feel as an inspector? The profession and professional organizations may not have the same goals and paths. They are both in the same arena and their is a need for the organization, but do not always think that the organization has its members as its first line of thought, its first line of thought is growth and expansion.
Many think I go behind Nicks back…that is far from the truth. I have email dialogue with him and express my views. When my thoughts are not the same as his (which he is entiteld to) what am I suppose to do? When Nick tell me “NO” am I suppose to drop it and move on? I guess many would, but I am not that type guy. When I see something that can be improved, I try to work within the typical methods, when that does not work, I take it upon myself to make the difference.
I guess some see that as defiance and anarchy, I see it as taking something and trying to make a difference.
In closing my main point is that Nick will always look out for NACHI and you as individuals must always look out for the profession. When something is wrong, try to make it right. When you can improve on it, make it better. Please do not think Nick is your Messiah, he is just a guy who runs an organization, it is up to YOU to make things happen. STAND up, just as John did and stated his view against me. I am OK with that, he can state his views just like I do mine.
But in the infancy stages of our profession, together we stand and divided we fall and it takes ALL OF US to come together to make Florida Inspectors the best there are. Expect no one to do it for you and for you to do it for yourself…
Many may feel that the profession is it’s infancy Russ. I have grown considerably older in the practice of this proffession over the past 24 years. It is not an industry in the early stage of development, it is a profession in a struggle to attain recognition for quality and service to the clientele.
In the past many home inspections were done in a shoddy and unproffessional manner. The fact is many were done that way deliberately, fraudulently, intentionally and the tradition continues. Hopefully in the future the crooks will be punished, the uneducated will get educated, the inexperienced will get experienced and the rest of us will be recognized as deserving of the public trust.
I can’t hold my breath that long so I’ll just keep pluggin along.
Its in its infancy stages as far as licensing goes. So now all kinds take pop shots at that. My company has been around since 1982 and licensed as a company in 1985. I do know the ins and outs and do know its been around a while.
But now we have to play a totally different political game or be told what to do by other professions.
I do pretty well for my area, so its not what’s in it for me, its what I want to do to make a mark to make the industry better. in 5-10 years I will be gone, but just want to leave the profession in a little better condition than I found it. IS that so wrong? If it is, then wrong I am and I am ok with that…
I am not condemning your actions, I applaud them. It is a long row to hoe is all I am saying. It likely will take the next 5 years for the licensing system to work out the kinks and a change in the economic reality to iron out things to allow a system to be enacted that represents the best interests of the public and the industry.
Probably take that long for the proffession to be recognized as one.