I thought that the proctored exam was offered as a separate measure to help with licensing…not as a condition of membership. It violates the rules that all chapters have had to comply with, in the history of the association, if it requires a proctored exam (with a fee) for membership in the chapter.
I don’t understand how that could ever be allowed. Can I start a NACHI chapter that requires compliance with the NAHI standard of practice? How about one that requires passing the NHIE?
Unless Nick has changed the rules for all NACHI chapters, it has always been that a NACHI chapter is open for full membership to all who have qualified for NACHI membership, and are members in good standing. Has Nick published any changes to this anywhere on the website?
I am the Poster Boy for FLNACHI rejection, I was personally told on this very message board by none other than Nick Gromickohimself that I didn’t qualify to be a FLNACHI member, go figure.
If someone with my qualifications wasn’t allowed to join FLNACHI then who is qualified? I’ll tell you… Any newbie with a crisp $100 bill, it was a simple case of Pay-for-Play.
I am getting confused about this stuff going on down there…and I have lost track of “who is on what side” to be able to have any personal bias, one way or the other. If I am offending a friend by any of this…I apologize in advance…but…
Never, in the history of NACHI, has NACHI allowed a chapter that it endorses to exclude membership from any NACHI member in good standing. Never.
Chapters can charge additional fees and, honestly, that is what I thought this proctored test (and associated fee) represented…the opportunity for NACHI members to pay a chapter to take an ADDITIONAL test that was required by the state for licensing…not by the chapter for membership.
What comes next? Does the “pseudo-chapter” begin to advertise that its members are more qualified than other NACHI members who didn’t take their proctored exam? Do they begin to compete against other NACHI members because other members are LESS qualified?
CMI is a designation…not a chapter. Apples and oranges. Not every NACHI member is qualified to be a CMI…while EVERY member is qualified, by virtue of his NACHI membership, to belong to ANY NACHI chapter.
Riddle me this… How many licenses were issued where the inspector had yet to perform 100 home inspections? Answer that and you will most likely have the answer to your question. #-o
AAA construction school is responsible for the majority of the new licenses that have no experince other than a 2 day exam prep class and membership in the Florida Home Inspectors Assocation. These people are not members of FLNACHI.
There were about 830 NACHI members in Florida in July 2010.
Today there are over 1700. It would be interesting to find out the experience level of those new members.
As you noticed, my question was rhetorical with a side order of sarcasm.
Greg, how do we quantify the experience level of inspectors prior to licensing, and since? I saw somewhere prior to licensing that DBPR estimated 4000 home inspectors in FL. Last time I looked, there were less than 2000 licensed inspectors so far. Does that mean that the experienced inspectors left and only the unqualified got their license, or did we lose a lot of unqualified or part timers? How many of the new NACHi inspectors are AAA grads?
These are the latest numbers I have for licensing.
The number of applications received at last count.
Home Inspector: 3,151
Mold Assessor: 1,384
Mold Remediator: 1,463
About 1000 were received on the last two days before grandfathering ended. As I understand it AAA dropped off 600 applications during that time.
I don’t know how we could quantify the experience level of each one. The state doesn’t keep track of how each applicant qualified.
In the mid 2000’s NACHI had over 3000 members in Florida.
I don’t know how many came from AAA. My son is a AAA grad and he said that they didn’t say much about the NACHI membership during the class. They spent most of their time reviewing the test.
The owner of AAA Construction School is Robert K Irion SR.
So if at this point there are 3151 licensed or in progress, we have fewer inspectors at present than before licensing, if DBPR estimates were right. Or, we’re about the same amount.
I’m not sure the playing field is any different, we just know who is who. :-k
Some of these will be culled due to normal attrition of inspectors, some will quit the first time they have to do a crawlspace inspection or find they can not live on 300 dollars month, make truck payment, insurance, tools, etc. Most new businesses fail because of piss poor business practices, don’t have a plan or understand you can’t spend every dime that comes in the door because there may be some lean times when nothing comes in but the bills. I suspect there will be a thinning of the inspector herd once this thing gets past the breaking in period but then there will be whole new batch of inspectors graduating from a five day course to replenish the herd. The lions will survive, the weak, slow and stupid will not. Circle of life stuff. Anyone coming into this business at this time already shows some lack of sense and research acumen.
Blaine, for me using the FlNACHI method was a matter of ethics and ease. I use an inspection agreement (contract if you will) that includes: the inspection information and report are the property of the customer commissioning the inspection and that I will not relase any inspection information or report without the express written consent of the customer, unless required to do so by law or subpoena. I felt that using my customers inspection information or report to obtain my license was unethical and broke my contract with my customers and was also unethical.
Someone help a newby out - I thought it was all InterNachi so what is FloridaNachi and NachiManagement? I like nachi but I am getting confused with all the sideshows like the energy webinar I wasted my time on today which I found on the nachi site - sat there one hour and still don’t know what they were selling or what it could possibly do for me or any nachi member. It won’t take a lot more of this type of organizational confusion for me to look elsewhere.
