Look read it for what it is.
I see it that way.
No meds here stopped drinking 13 years ago.
So he can I can,t is the MB game.
Read his post and I hit a nerve.
THE TRUTH.
Brian MacN.
I would like to see a honest mistake be corrected by YOU.
Not harsh remarks that come raining down on me,
" the new one to the game", the least experienced to defend myself ( and have posted it for all to see over and over again) to get it through thick heads ( like yours).
But the big swell headed ones as your self or others I will not mention " like to dig in."
So I see when you make a mistake in your wording and I pickup on it ( but was it a mistake/) you come running back to call me a me a medicated, alcoholic.
Yes I see how you play the game Brian.
Called smoke and mirrors.
Trust me MATE.
I have bumped heads with azzes like you ALL MY LIFE.
You dictate to others you perceived doctrine of spew ( my way or the highway ).
I would like to see you maybe admit you posted your wording wrong. ( fat chance)
See I read it that way BRI.
You offended me.
Must be others seeing that statement you posted and reading it the way I read it.
What again. every construction worker and broom sweeping fool rushing to becoming a residential building inspector.
Our as you so eloquently put it ( home inspector )
So again BRI.
Help me see it YOUR WAY.
I must have been mistaken about everything I read by you.
NOT !!!
Now you have elevated yourself ( to me ) to the light that shines the brightest. Your true feeling those deep down emotions of truth of what makes Mr. MacN. tick.
Arrogant pompous azz you really are.
( to me )
Was that it BRI.
Thanks Bri. I will adjust my meds and slow down on my drinking as soon as you stop being the instigator of malcontent here at InterNACHI.
TILL THEN I AM HERE AND BEING A VOICE AT YOUR WORDS THAT INSULT OTHERS.
I think you hit the nail on the head for 90 percent of InterNACHI members in general.
WOW nice catch Raymond.
How can they even call themselves administers of truth and teaching.
Man that’s low.
If the licensing was set up with a high set of requirements to earn a designation, it will eliminate the inept and not encourage them (like a free online test that can be taken as many times as needed until passed does- another marketing gimmick)…they will find some other place to earn a living. A lot of young folks may want to be doctors or lawyers but don’t have what it takes…that’s what should be happening in the HI field also. Seems like the opposite is happening!
Some of the requirements I see at the state level in the US are at the same time appalling and laughable. Hope we don’t head that way here; BC was decent start. Seems like Texas has fairly stringent requirements.
Can you explain the above and why you went on the tirade believing that I hate construction workers?
Sadly, there is no proof that licensing make one a better inspector. But lack of proof has not seemed to stop some ‘industry leaders’ from making equally ridiculous claims about us before, without proof, so . . . .
HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED / YEAR?
HOW MAN OF THOSE INSPECTIONS GENERATE MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINT?
NEVER ACCEPT ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT PROOF.
Brian MacNeish writes:
I agree. Their requirements for inspection course approvals are outrageously high: Click here and scroll down.
The purpose of licensing is not to make people better inspectors…they will do that on their own through personal integrity, aptitude, construction industry experience, proper additional training and CEU’s, personal people skills and presentation, etc and etc.
Licensing is to set a minimum standard (very high, I hope) that must be met by prospective HI’s so that the public has some degree of assurance that their home inspection is being done by a trained person. Presently anyone can advertise that they are an HI and not have adequate training/experience for a proper inspection…a fine state of affairs.
As you know, I feel that there are other probelms in this unregulated field also from conflicts of interest to the “weasel clause”. Nice to know that Massachussets has banned the use of the weasel clause…and BC started dealing with the conflict of interest in their first set of regulations…it will spread as these make sense for the consumer whom BTW, is our bread & butter!!
Coming to a province near you…REGULATION…get involved to make it work for you.
**Gee thanks for the information Brian .
The USA is ahead of us and seeing how Licensing is working there .
I expect Canada will do as well .
That means all who want to be home inspectors will be able to hand out their cards and away they go .
This of course will instantly stop all our discussions as we will now have huge increase in Home Inspectors .
Fortunately you will have more time to concentrate on your Insulation business .
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Its wording like" pretty soon every construction worker and broom sweeper will come running." ( so you know the intelligences of them do you.
I know doctors from others country’s not able to ply there skills because of ( that way of thinking Brian). Bigoted thinking.
Afraid to let others in. Afraid of competition. Inferiority complex.
Also using negative condemnations like adjust your meds and alcohol ,when trying to paint a visual picture of a member.
Yes I understand perfectly.
Its the use of construction works , why not just use ( soon everyone will come running?)
Implying construction works and sweeps will come running is using a specific group." denouncing there intelligence " in a blanket statement. ( to me )
If they or anyone as for that fact of the matter can pass the test, they merit a certification, trade classification.
I have been held back because of my language and that exact thinking pattern along with many others.
You do not hate construction workers , I will say that for now BUT,look down on them and others that do not fit your ideal home inspector classification structure.
( again Brian to me) and as I have read your interactions with others and your read blanket statements.
I could be wrong. Will not be the first time.
Sorry for being so long winded in my explanation. I hope you get it now.
This process has been going on in Alberta for the last five years. It’s being orchestrated by the Alberta government. They insist that all discussions within the advisory committee be kept secret and nothing from within the committee can be released to the public.
We are having our AGM in Red Deer on Jan 17 2011.
Since Brock Ketcham, Chairman of advisory committee will not be attending this year, We have a couple of hours available to discuss these proposals. I will be making a complete report to our members. Nick has said he was coming but he has not confirmed as yet.
If you all would like to have this discussion we can add it to the agenda.
Go to http://ab.nachi.org/albertanachi/event618.html to register to attend. We need confirmation by the end of next week so the hotel can setup the facilities for us.
The future of your business is going to hinge on what the government is going to do and the information at this meeting is going to be critical for that future.
Thanks Vern and NICK ,This could make a huge differenve to the Canadian Home Inspection industry.
I hope many more Alberta Homies get this info and go to the meeting.
The purpose of licensing is not to make people better inspectors…they will do that on their own through personal integrity, aptitude, construction industry experience, proper additional training and CEU’s, personal people skills and presentation, etc and etc.
The mystery is that you will not trust inspectors to do exactly that without submitting to a licensing scheme. They are the same people Brian. You are assuming that without licensing they are all incompetent. Give us proof of your claims Brian;
HOW MANY INSPECTORS ARE THERE IN CANADA?
HOW MANY INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETED / YEAR?
HOW MANY OF THOSE INSPECTIONS GENERATE MINOR / MAJOR CLIENT COMPLAINT?
You cannot damn us all without proof Brian.
George here is NHICC finally admitting there really isn’t a problem. Now we are getting somewhere…
***This simply provides a very small glimpse into claims against home inspectors. The reality today, there’s no clear data that supports the overall impact other than a number of isolated reports with respect to accountability and newsworthy claims that indicates the potential vulnerability to consumers of home inspection services.
"You are assuming that without licensing* they are all incompetent"***
No, George. That is your mantra!!
I have never said or implied that nor have others. You keep repeating that post after post and yet I have never seen it said by anyone other than yourself (The Bluster) to self-aggrandize and gain support for ACHI with insinuation and innuendo. It’s sad!
Presently, in every Canadian jurisdiction except BC, anyone can call themselves a home inspector with qualifications from any unaccredited diploma mill or with little to no qualifications at all. At this point of time in the development of the HI field (40+ years), IMHO, this is unnacceptable. Consumers need some assurance that the HI they choose has some minimum level (hopefully quite high) of training and competence. How is another voluntary organization (ACHI) going to accomplish this in a short period of time? It shouldn’t drag on for another 10 years!
Raymond:
Your opinion on the HI field, over the last couple of years until very recently, was that licensing may be necessary. What has changed other than that ACHI has you as a member?
That’s a good question, Brian. Considering this passage from Mr. Wand’s website this morning, he still advocates licensing and clearly points out a lack of proper training and competence problem in the industry:
**"This my opinion necessitates the need for the Provincial Government to licence home inspectors to ensure public confidence in the inspection profession, to ensure all home inspectors meet a minimum standard and that governance of home inspectors should not be a self regulating one over seen by other inspectors.
**
The profession is swamped with inspectors who graduate from 2 week home inspection courses, this unfortunately does not ensure quality. There is no legislation in Ontario that requires licensing or any form of registration."
…and you know, there is nothing wrong with that, as long as the message is consistent and he doesn’t put those words in the mouths of others.
Bill Mullen
Thanks Brian
Can you please show me where Raymond has change his mind I must have missed that.
You should talk to Raymond.